SycloneJoe
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It was just a comment.Well something prompted this response.
And BTW, I don't drink or do drugs; I'm just very intense in my convictions. No Fence Sitter. And really don't Give a poop what anyone thinks.
FWIW
Just for comparison, I know a young man who got really messed up selling drugs and got thrown in the state prison
for about 5-51/2 years. He realized he had messed up bad and worked hard to get out by behaving. Got out on probation for
another 8 years.
He had always heard, "well, you have to pay your debt to society". He did that, but society doesn't forget. He was happy to get out
and said, "I'm gonna get me a job and stay straight". Not far into every job application, he was confronted with, "have you ever
been convicted of a felony", so, in short, society left him with no where, and I mean nowhere, to go. He now owns his own barber
shop in Murfreesboro.
My whole point is, I think this young man's future hangs on with whether society can allow him to be forgiven and get behind
and encourage him to succeed. It feels great to feel it happen and when given the chance, most young men will learn from their
mistakes and jump at the opportunity to make things right. I think Jeremy Banks would. My son did.
Most criminals in prison claim to be reformed. Only time will tell with JB. I’ll accept whatever decision JP makes. I’m rooting for him to make it because he may be a helluva RB/LB for the Vols.If you follow his social media, he's made an amazing turnaround. Hopefully his mistake with the police is a turning point in his life. It appears that it's made for a great testimony. I'm definitely pulling for him. I bet he'll be back once practice starts.
It's not an amazing turnaround. Its predictable. Kind of cringy. I don't believe he will be back. On the Jennings comparison, 2 things. All Jennings did was call out the stupid coaches for being stupid. I think we can all agree they were dumb and the criticism was well deserved. He was not in any legal trouble. Also JJ was one of the best players on the team. We needed him. Banks doesnt even have a position. He cant stop fumbling at RB and idk how well you keep up with recruiting, but we have some damn good LBs coming in. IMO the hit UTs image would take outweighs the benefits of him coming back. Also keep in mind he is free to go elsewhere, we arent "putting him out on the streets" as one poster put it.If you follow his social media, he's made an amazing turnaround. Hopefully his mistake with the police is a turning point in his life. It appears that it's made for a great testimony. I'm definitely pulling for him. I bet he'll be back once practice starts.
Most criminals in prison claim to be reformed. Only time will tell with JB. I’ll accept whatever decision JP makes. I’m rooting for him to make it because he may be a helluva RB/LB for the Vols.
Jennings released a profanity laced rant on social media...polar opposite of SMART. It demanded a response and if he had gotten a free pass I don’t believe he would have left the program the VFL icon that he his. Hoke did very little in his baby sitting job, but not burning Jennings redshirt for one game and giving him the ultimate life lesson that there is always someone to whom you have to answer counts as something. He demanded to play QB against Vandy after not playing the whole damn season and barely attending classes...what was HE right about?It's not an amazing turnaround. Its predictable. Kind of cringy. I don't believe he will be back. On the Jennings comparison, 2 things. All Jennings did was call out the stupid coaches for being stupid. I think we can all agree they were dumb and the criticism was well deserved. He was not in any legal trouble. Also JJ was one of the best players on the team. We needed him. Banks doesnt even have a position. He cant stop fumbling at RB and idk how well you keep up with recruiting, but we have some damn good LBs coming in. IMO the hit UTs image would take outweighs the benefits of him coming back. Also keep in mind he is free to go elsewhere, we arent "putting him out on the streets" as one poster put it.
He isn't in prison and apparently has no guarantees of ever playing for UT yet. It looks like he's living it and not just talking it. I've always thought that if this kid would do what was asked and face and correct the attitude that caused him to do what he did... he should get a shot. Great opportunity for UT to reach not just him but the community he comes from... to build a bridge instead of burning one.Most criminals in prison claim to be reformed. Only time will tell with JB. I’ll accept whatever decision JP makes. I’m rooting for him to make it because he may be a helluva RB/LB for the Vols.
As I stated I’m rooting for him. The prison comment was an analogy as you probably are aware.He isn't in prison and apparently has no guarantees of ever playing for UT yet. It looks like he's living it and not just talking it. I've always thought that if this kid would do what was asked and face and correct the attitude that caused him to do what he did... he should get a shot. Great opportunity for UT to reach not just him but the community he comes from... to build a bridge instead of burning one.
FWIW
Just for comparison, I know a young man who got really messed up selling drugs and got thrown in the state prison
for about 5-51/2 years. He realized he had messed up bad and worked hard to get out by behaving. Got out on probation for
another 8 years.
He had always heard, "well, you have to pay your debt to society". He did that, but society doesn't forget. He was happy to get out
and said, "I'm gonna get me a job and stay straight". Not far into every job application, he was confronted with, "have you ever
been convicted of a felony", so, in short, society left him with no where, and I mean nowhere, to go. He now owns his own barber
shop in Murfreesboro.
My whole point is, I think this young man's future hangs on with whether society can allow him to be forgiven and get behind
and encourage him to succeed. It feels great to feel it happen and when given the chance, most young men will learn from their
mistakes and jump at the opportunity to make things right. I think Jeremy Banks would. My son did.
Not saying either of them were in the right. IMO what it comes down to is what Jennings did was not as bad as what Banks did. That's it.Jennings released a profanity laced rant on social media...polar opposite of SMART. It demanded a response and if he had gotten a free pass I don’t believe he would have left the program the VFL icon that he his. Hoke did very little in his baby sitting job, but not burning Jennings redshirt for one game and giving him the ultimate life lesson that there is always someone to whom you have to answer counts as something. He demanded to play QB against Vandy after not playing the whole damn season and barely attending classes...what was HE right about?
Thought just last week you posted something about gin and tonic. Must be thinking of someone else. Never too late to start. With you on the fence sitting, especially if it's barbed wire.Well something prompted this response. And BTW, I don't drink or do drugs; I'm just very intense in my convictions. No Fence Sitter. And really don't Give a poop what anyone thinks.
of course it's just my opinion. Never said it was anything else. Banks trouble involved the law and LEOs, that's why I dont think he will be back. Am I actively rooting for him not to be allowed back? No. Would I be shocked if he comes back? No. I just dont think it's going to happen. Nothing personal against the kid. Sometimes you make a mistake and you pay dearly sometimes you get a 2nd chance. That's life.Exactly...opinion. You mess up and the coaches are willing to give you another shot? These rest goes out with the bath water.
Price disagrees.of course it's just my opinion. Never said it was anything else. Banks trouble involved the law and LEOs, that's why I dont think he will be back. Am I actively rooting for him not to be allowed back? No. Would I be shocked if he comes back? No. I just dont think it's going to happen. Nothing personal against the kid. Sometimes you make a mistake and you pay dearly sometimes you get a 2nd chance. That's life.
Jeremy Banks will be back in June, per AP.
Guys like Nick Saban have 100% control over their programs, unless they pull a Jerry Sandusky then they just tell the administration to F off. All that being said, every indication out there says Banks will be back on the team.Actually the board of directors and the President would probably have ownership of the team, that said, it takes everybody to be on board in decisions like these in order to have a championship program, fans included.