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nicksjuzunk said:
And I will be the first to admit the drawn out nature of this is the worst part for me. I literally had like five days of feeling better and it came back. Fatigue and headaches remain the worst part of my experience. After a three day slide I feel 85% better today... just a little weak. We will see if this is finally the climb out of the whole or false hope
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And remind the rest of us how old and how fit you are?
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
How does coronaflu kill? By offing the weak elderly with pre-existing health issues.

Because otherwise that “ferocious rampage” ain’t really doing ish to otherwise healthy people.

Great sensationalistic clickbait title though
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it doesn’t only kill weak elderly. Don’t be silly. Probably every person in the thread has at least one underlying health issue that they may not even know about. Not to mention those around you that may be young, elderly, weak etc.
 
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HankHill said:
it doesn’t only kill weak elderly. Don’t be silly. Probably every person in the thread has at least one underlying health issue that they may not even know about. Not to mention those around you that may be young, elderly, weak etc.
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Facts don’t lie homie


.0002% chance of even getting it.

98% cure rate even if you do.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The quarantine is over for me already. I'm living life like I always have. This is the most overblown non event in American history. Especially now that we know that this virus has been around since at least January, somewhere between 50-90 times more people have had it than we originally thought, and therefore the death rate is just like the seasonal flu.
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Nah. This thing has been around longer than the quarantine and wasn’t killing many people. We overreacted. Should have isolated the most at risk and kept everyone else working.
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We’ll just agree to disagree. We might have been a little hyperbolic due to fear, but 95% of the reason this hasn’t been so bad is because social distancing works.
 
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SSVol said:
I have analyzed this 10 different ways, trying to sort fact from fiction, politics, and agenda. I have some stuff I trust more than others obviously, but I keep coming back to the same conclusion. I was actually pretty excited about some of what was being suggested by these antibody tests, until i started digging into the tests being used and the methodologies of those conducting them. The majority of these antibody tests have such significant sensitivity and specificity errors that is is impossible to use the results the way they are using them. It's the equivalent of measuring the thickness of a sheet paper with a ruler.

For example: The Abbott Labs test I linked a while back is very good, but there are no results back from it. It is claimed to be 100% sensitive (catches every case) and 99.5% specific (has 5 false positives in 1000 tests). Even as good as it is, if it had been used in the Santa Clara county test its error rate would have been 33% of the total positives they found. Out of 3300 people they tested, they found 50 positive....*50*. With the best-in-class Abbot test, the false positives would be expected to be 17 of the 50. But they didn't use the Abbott test, they used one out of China that was far less accurate than that. To make it worse, the sample was highly salted by the way they got test subjects. They then took that small number of positives, found by a questionable test, from a salted sample, and extrapolated that to the entire county and made the claim they did. Sorry, that isn't science.

When results start coming back from the Abbot test and fall outside the margin of error of the test, I'll change my tune. I hope I get to.
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I'm not sure we're interrupting the results the same. The results were 2.5% to 4.2% positive, meaning 82 to 139 (not 50) of 3300. And the range in percent positive should account for the test specificity. While I agree that the pool of testees is suspect, the results still show a far greater percent positive that what is being reported. Even at the low end (2.5% range), they're talking about 48x the number of cases. That's significant.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Just became a man (40), engage in strength training 5 times per week. Single digit body fat, high sleep priority, and excellent cardio score according to FitBit and a resting heart rate of 50-52... for those keeping score at home 😂
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Kristy* said:
I'm not sure we're interrupting the results the same. The results were 2.5% to 4.2% positive, meaning 82 to 139 (not 50) of 3300. And the range in percent positive should account for the test specificity. While I agree that the pool of testees is suspect, the results still show a far greater percent positive that what is being reported. Even at the low end (2.5% range), they're talking about 48x the number of cases. That's significant.
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Pretty sure it was 50 people, 1.5% of the actual test pool, and the 2.5% to 4.2% positive was a reinterpretation of that raw data to adjust to county demographics. On top of that the sample was salted, and on top of that, the 50 positive was *way* inside the error rate of the test. The Abbot test I cited is good, but most of the others from reputable labs are 90-ish% sensitive and specific. From what I read, they weren't even using those though, they were using one from China that had like a 40% specificity. Again, measuring the thickness of paper with a ruler.

To be clear, I absolutely believe there are far more cases than confirmed, but I think these 50x numbers are probably much too high.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I’d be willing to agree with you if he wasn’t a month slow. Governors took the lead and did a good job.
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The CDC botched initial testing. The data from China was misleading at best. And Trump's advisors have had differing opinions. I'm not always the biggest fan of President Trump, but I think he's done a fine job offering support and guidance throughout. There is no perfect way to handle an unknown pandemic.
 
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