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A couple of years ago I assembled an AR specifically for long range shooting with the goal to be able to take coyotes at decent distances. I've never been able to put a coyote hunt together however. I posted pics back when I finished it. Well I've had a couple or more groundhogs terrorizing my field and digging around and under a couple of outbuildings. I finally said enough is enough. I saw one out last Sunday and slipped the AR out of the safe. Went prone and sniped that sucker. The gun was spot on at 130 yards.

Tonight groundhog number two showed himself. Went and got the AR again. Shot it through the ear hole from 135 yards. The gun is a freaking tack driver. Very happy with it's performance.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Appreciate the feedback, and not trying to be argumentive here, but...

I have, and still do, qualify with both guns as backups...as I carry them...on a timed range with scoring standards. Granted, the GA backup gun qualifying course will not get you ready for an IPSC match, but likewise nor does punching holes in a stationary paper target prepare you for engaging an armed, moving felon in the dark when your stress level is so high you would have trouble zipping your pants. I can attest to the second part. So I practice the way I carry, and it is what it is. I wish I had or devoted more time to those survival skills, but...

So where do you stand on round in battery and half-cock? If I didn't value your opinion, I wouldn't ask.

Keep safe.
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It violates the basic safety rule "keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to fire".
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Question for the herd: My off-duty CC weapon is a Glock 30S. Only upgrades are a Pyramid trigger, extended mag release, and extended slide release. Standard "ball in a cup" sights. I like it because it's very concealable, lightweight, and the mag capacity (10 rounds, plus 13 round G21 reloads). Good there. I do not carry it with a round in the pipe; I practice "rack and go".

At home, the go-to is a Rock Island compact 1911. This one has night sights, and got a really nice tune-up when I sent it in for the sights. Very tight, and very accurate. Because of the night sights, this is my HD and "things that go bump in the night" weapon. I am not a big fan of a round in the chamber, especially on an IWB (and appendix carry) gun, so I train for rack and point with the Glock, and have done the same to this point with the RIA. Consistency and muscle memory being the key here.

But...for the Rock, I'm starting to think having a round in the pipe, and the trigger at half-cock, might be a better way to go. Easier and quicker to just thumb back to full cock if I have to roll out at 3 am, as opposed to racking the slide to get a round in battery. FYI, the Rock is also my backup handgun in my active shooter bag when I work, so...important decision here.

I'd like to hear what those of you who have experience in these matters think.

Edit: I belong to the school of thought that says "you use your pistol to fight your way to your rifle", and my AR rests at the ready on hooks inside my closet (10 feet away), so the Rock is intended to get me there.
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The hot/cold chamber debate actually has pros and cons. The "pro" for a cold chamber is pretty much entirely encapsulated by removing any possible way for an AD to occur. That's actually a pretty big pro. A competent and practiced shooter (I'm very much including you in this category) can rack and present the weapon as fast or faster than people not in that group can present with a hot chamber.

There are some distinct cons however. Regardless of how fast anyone can present with a cold chamber they'll be faster with a hot one. Is that worth the peace of mind from carrying cold? That's a personal decision. To me though the largest potential problem isn't something that can be measured with a timer but possible liabilities if the fertilizer hits fan. What if you find yourself for whatever reason one handed, particularly weak handed? (Everyone should know how to rack their weapon one handed) Even if trained and practiced that's a poor tactical position in which to find oneself. Also there are many that don't think "game on" a particularly good time to have to go through extra weapon manipulations. That's simply adding complexity to a worst case scenario at the worst possible time. Now in full disclosure I will sometimes carry cold because I'm fortunate enough to spend a great deal of time in situations where I'd be, in Jeff Cooper parlance, a pretty pale "level yellow". Some people spend a lot of time in places where that would be imprudent IMHO. If I'm going somewhere that isn't as benign or my spidey sense tingles in the least I'll heat up.

As to 1911's I'm of the opinion that if they are being carried they need to be cocked and locked. There's probably a good deal more leeway in a nightstand scenario. While there may be differences to consider among certain models I think C&L is simply how that design is supposed to be carried. This is from RIA's 1911 A1/A2 manual.

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Appreciate all the feedback, especially the above post by hndog. All stuff I knew, or used to know, but for some reason I was starting to re-think my default carry condition for the Glock and the Rock. I really wanted to keep both in the same "condition" to make the muscle memory consistent.

So I guess we stay where we were, and hope I don't need that extra 1/2 second. Rock will be C&L on the night stand, and cold carry in the A/S bag. If I need it there, my duty sidearm and AR are already out of ammo or service, so...

Everything is a compromise; I can (hopefully) live with my choices.

Again, thanks for all of the feedback...and the internet-winning zinger. Solid crew here.
 
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So I am going to put the sub 2000 on hold and finally get a carry gun. I'm thinking either the Canik TP9SC or the S&W Shield 9mm. Has anybody used Clinger Holsters? I'm intrigued by thier Comfort cling holster.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Question for the herd: My off-duty CC weapon is a Glock 30S. Only upgrades are a Pyramid trigger, extended mag release, and extended slide release. Standard "ball in a cup" sights. I like it because it's very concealable, lightweight, and the mag capacity (10 rounds, plus 13 round G21 reloads). Good there. I do not carry it with a round in the pipe; I practice "rack and go".

At home, the go-to is a Rock Island compact 1911. This one has night sights, and got a really nice tune-up when I sent it in for the sights. Very tight, and very accurate. Because of the night sights, this is my HD and "things that go bump in the night" weapon. I am not a big fan of a round in the chamber, especially on an IWB (and appendix carry) gun, so I train for rack and point with the Glock, and have done the same to this point with the RIA. Consistency and muscle memory being the key here.

But...for the Rock, I'm starting to think having a round in the pipe, and the trigger at half-cock, might be a better way to go. Easier and quicker to just thumb back to full cock if I have to roll out at 3 am, as opposed to racking the slide to get a round in battery. FYI, the Rock is also my backup handgun in my active shooter bag when I work, so...important decision here.

I'd like to hear what those of you who have experience in these matters think.

Edit: I belong to the school of thought that says "you use your pistol to fight your way to your rifle", and my AR rests at the ready on hooks inside my closet (10 feet away), so the Rock is intended to get me there.
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Im assuming you are law enforcement due to the off duty statement. I just did 6 years in as a LEO. Outside of my first month carrying a pistol at 21 yoa, I have always carried one in the pipe. On duty its the only way you carry and train. Having to train your mind for two different ways to draw and engage a threat could be dangerous. May I ask why you are hesitant to carry your Glock like that (for thr record I cant stand Glock but had to carry one for years)? In some fighting situations you may be so close to a threat you are using one arm to push back to draw with the other and would not be able to rack a round. Did this drill a lot in advanced firearms.

EDIT: Additionally, my opinion would be to always have a round chambered and ready. I feel as people who carry one without one in the chamber are probably not comfortable enough to be carrying period. To each his own.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
So I am going to put the sub 2000 on hold and finally get a carry gun. I'm thinking either the Canik TP9SC or the S&W Shield 9mm. Has anybody used Clinger Holsters? I'm intrigued by thier Comfort cling holster.
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Don't carry a striker fired pistol in a soft holster, you're asking to shoot yourself. Get a double action revolver if you want to pocket carry
 
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JCHateSteve said:
So I am going to put the sub 2000 on hold and finally get a carry gun. I'm thinking either the Canik TP9SC or the S&W Shield 9mm. Has anybody used Clinger Holsters? I'm intrigued by thier Comfort cling holster.
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Just get both

P365, Hellcat
 
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JCHateSteve said:
So I am going to put the sub 2000 on hold and finally get a carry gun. I'm thinking either the Canik TP9SC or the S&W Shield 9mm. Has anybody used Clinger Holsters? I'm intrigued by thier Comfort cling holster.
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Tbh, everything I've read on them has been super positive. Plus you get a lot for what you pay for.
 
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YankeeVol said:
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Just get both

P365, Hellcat >>>> Shield and Turkish made s***
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YankeeVol said:
Tbh, everything I've read on them has been super positive. Plus you get a lot for what you pay for.
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I'll get there. But I can't afford both atm. I've shot a buddy's Canik. It was one of the bigger ones. But I was really impressed with it. I originally wanted a Springfield XDS. But I can't find one in my price range with all this craziness going on.

I've handled the P365. I thought the grip was to small. I looked into getting a subcompact conversion for my Sig P320 too. But they cost so much, you might as well buy a new gun.

We had an incident at work that has me motivated to start carrying. Which is why I'm not waiting.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I'll get there. But I can't afford both atm. I've shot a buddy's Canik. It was one of the bigger ones. But I was really impressed with it. I originally wanted a Springfield XDS. But I can't find one in my price range with all this craziness going on.

I've handled the P365. I thought the grip was to small. I looked into getting a subcompact conversion for my Sig P320 too. But they cost so much, you might as well buy a new gun.

We had an incident at work that has me motivated to start carrying. Which is why I'm not waiting.
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I'm just giving ya a hard time. I understand.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I'll get there. But I can't afford both atm. I've shot a buddy's Canik. It was one of the bigger ones. But I was really impressed with it. I originally wanted a Springfield XDS. But I can't find one in my price range with all this craziness going on.

I've handled the P365. I thought the grip was to small. I looked into getting a subcompact conversion for my Sig P320 too. But they cost so much, you might as well buy a new gun.

We had an incident at work that has me motivated to start carrying. Which is why I'm not waiting.
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Cz rami 2075 with the decocker
 
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hndog609 said:
Too "small" or too short? They have the longer magazine that isn't the flush fit.

There's also an XL version that's got more meat to it.
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I have been carrying the XL since some time last year. Works for pocket carry although I don't concern myself with printing. I prefer OWB but my employer requires concealed if you want to carry OTJ. I really dislike IWB for comfort reasons.
 
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