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bamawriter said:
Nope:

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I kind of doubt that statistic, if "morning after pills" would be included. Although, I don't see where that data would be attainable.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
It can be if you want it to be though :)

Its all about culture and how various ethnic groups approach conducting their own lives and raising their children.
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That has a lot to do with it.

In the black community, and probably other poor communities, govt has replaced the father by incentivizing and supplementing single motherhood , which has shattered the traditional nuclear family and thrown the black community into a worse quagmire than Jim Crow.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
What? Do you actually know any non White people??

You might want to stay away from census.gov and fbi.gov....
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I'm a somewhat aware of "college culture", which I would say there has been twice as many "Plan Bs" than clinical abortions. But I'm not a statistician.
 
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Stew Cook said:
What are the demographics relating to poverty?
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Pretty much that order.

Funny thing is, blacks emigrating here from shiddy parts of the world also outperform American blacks, and have a low opinion of them in their own countries. And the left tells us that poor illegals from south of us and Asia come here and don't use subsidy, so they too come here with pockets inside out and somehow do better than American blacks. And often within a generation.

I just can't put my finger on the common denomiator, mmm....
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That has a lot to do with it.

In the black community, and probably other poor communities, govt has replaced the father by incentivizing and supplementing single motherhood , which has shattered the traditional nuclear family and thrown the black community into a worse quagmire than Jim Crow.
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You cannot say this unless you're part of the black community.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That has a lot to do with it.

In the black community, and probably other poor communities, govt has replaced the father by incentivizing and supplementing single motherhood , which has shattered the traditional nuclear family and thrown the black community into a worse quagmire than Jim Crow.
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I took a sociology elective at UT back in the day called marriage and family. It laid out pretty much how certain cultures view how their childrens lives should be shaped and what their future lives should be like. Asian and Whites generally encourage the nuclear type family with an emphasis on finishing education, finding a career, then getting married and having a family. Hispanics were more geared towards getting married and having kids as early as possible, education and career goals were low on the totem pole. Like you said though black culture didnt really encourage the life aspiration hierarchy was like get pregnant accidentally, take care of kid(s) as single parent, male role models are brothers/cousins/uncles, never finish school, work multiple jobs, rinse repeat.

Class was depressing. I thought it would help with picking up chicks.
 
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McDad said:
No idea what that means. If it gives you hope, that's good enough for me
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It's not about hope, it's about two people saying competing racially charged things.. and they aren't always due to being, insensitive, if it comes right down to it. Although I think Biden's remark, in this case, was a gaffe, but the gist was there.
 
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GAVol said:
I’d guess that it’s because they’re not dumbasses and would prefer not to die.
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If that is the case (they are not dumbasses), then there would not have been a need for the state to shutdown church services because they would have done the "smart" thing on their own, correct?

Why was that decision taken away from them? This is (was) "America", right?
 
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TennTradition said:
That possible CV doesn’t mean CV death. But it allows the CDC to test their models later. There are a lot of people dying at home without a CV test. Ideally their blood will be drawn for serology testing but I don’t know if that’s happening.

As for counting positive CV test deaths as CV deaths, it’s immaterial.

During an epidemic you can’t easily evaluate every death in detail from a CDC standpoint. So if you die following a positive CV test, they count you in their current statistics.

It is a minor bias that allows them to handle large amounts of information in a fast paced process. A bias that is likely overwhelmed by the deaths that are not being counted.

Mortality rate in the US is 874/100,000 per year. We’ve had 6 weeks of CV deaths. Assuming all 500k cases had CV that whole time and could have died of CV or other causes (very conservative because 400k of those have only been cases for 2 weeks), you would only expect 500 deaths non CV deaths. Instead we’ve had 19,000. That’s less than 3%.

If you do the less conservative math of 100k cases for 6 weeks, 200k cases for 2 weeks, and 200k cases for 1 week (better tracking case progression) that drops to more like 200. That’s 1%.

Making an issue of this is just a distraction. It’s immaterial and streamlines the process during the heat of the epidemic.
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I can't follow this right now, but did you apply the same death rate from the general population to those dying of Covid? Those folks dying of Covid have a much higher probability of dying due to being old or preexisting condition.
 
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Weezy said:
I can't follow this right now, but did you apply the same death rate from the general population to those dying of Covid? Those folks dying of Covid have a much higher probability of dying due to being old or preexisting condition.
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No - I applied it to the positive cases. I mentioned to volinbham that it is possible that the 500k cases skew higher risk for non-CV death to the extent that CV tests may be prioritized for the at-risk, but I don’t have that data. However, I would expect it to much more closely mirror the general population than the demographics of those who have died.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I kind of doubt that statistic, if "morning after pills" would be included. Although, I don't see where that data would be attainable.
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Its not included because chicks taking that as a precaution dont know if they are pregnant or not.

Funny related story, I have a Plan B coffee mug that I serve coffee in to chicks at my house.
 
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