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volfanjustin said:
It’s not, I don’t care who declared it. It’s an overblown flu bug
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I’m sure they’ll cite in their suit against the government that, despite the president’s declaration, that it isn’t an actual national emergency because volfanjustin days it’s just an overblown flu bug.

(PS, it’s not a flu, it’s a coronavirus. Overblown cold bug might be more appropriate)
 
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McDad said:
I found that weird, too. Rjd could get a margarita to go. Are drive in movies still open?
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Of course I can. There are also online providers allowing on demand rentals of movies currently in theaters.

If I were able to go out and do all that stuff and churches were still closed, then there would be legitimate beef and outrage. Likewise, if the churchgoers get exempted from the same dumb rules I have to follow, I would have legitimate outrage.

We are all in the same boat here and nobody is being singled out, no matter how hard somebody wants to paint that picture.
 
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GAVol said:
That’s an illogical litmus test since 99% of conservative leaders are complying as well.
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So if 99% of conservative Christian leaders are ok with temporarily not allowing in-person church services in tight quarters, doesn't that say these 1% are not really acting on religious tenants?Presumably, these churches generally subscribe to the same doctrines.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Colonel Day, Director of NCMI, came out and said the report doesn’t exist. They normally don’t address statements made by the media but this one was so egregious that it drew him out.
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I’m curious as to when intelligence picked up on it. Day says the NCMI report doesn’t exist. Does the intelligence exist?
 
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evillawyer said:
So if 99% of conservative Christian leaders are ok with temporarily not allowing in-person church services in tight quarters, doesn't that say these 1% are not really acting on religious tenants?Presumably, these churches generally subscribe to the same doctrines.
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If anything, doesn't the Bible speak about the road less traveled and not following the crowd? It is far more likely that the 99% are wrong.
 
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evillawyer said:
Presumably, these churches generally subscribe to the same doctrines.
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LOL... You presume WAY too much. There’s a reason we have a bazillion denominations.

I’m sure there are folks going to church out of defiance, but it’s worthless to try and paint this as a political statement at large.
 
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GAVol said:
LOL... You presume WAY too much. There’s a reason we have a bazillion denominations.

I’m sure there are folks going to church out of defiance, but it’s worthless to try and paint this as a political statement at large.
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I'll bet you there is a political aspect to these decisions. Is Separation of Church and State the rationale behind this?

My guess is that brainwashing folk into believing the political opposition loves Satan, doesn't have the same potency while being streamed.
 
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I highly doubt Christian goes to church to "own the libs". If they do, then their priorities are badly out of place. With that being said, it isn't hard to hold a church service virtually. That's what my church and countless others have resorted to doing during this time. The purpose of God's church is to make disciples who make disciples, and nothing about not having in person services in the interim should limit our ability to do that.

In regards to whether or not people should be quarantined for attending a church service this Sunday, I think there arguments both ways. I would argue that is government overreach, but I don't think the goverenment should even have to intervene. People should have the sense to recognize large, in person worship services aren't the best idea right now.

While worshipping together is something we are called to do, we are also called to use wisdom and sound wisdom according to Proverbs 3:21. Is it wise to hold an in person service right now when we have the technology that allows us to go virtual? Probably not.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That makes absolutely no sense at all. You are biasing the data towards a higher COVID death total.
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That possible CV doesn’t mean CV death. But it allows the CDC to test their models later. There are a lot of people dying at home without a CV test. Ideally their blood will be drawn for serology testing but I don’t know if that’s happening.

As for counting positive CV test deaths as CV deaths, it’s immaterial.

During an epidemic you can’t easily evaluate every death in detail from a CDC standpoint. So if you die following a positive CV test, they count you in their current statistics.

It is a minor bias that allows them to handle large amounts of information in a fast paced process. A bias that is likely overwhelmed by the deaths that are not being counted.

Mortality rate in the US is 874/100,000 per year. We’ve had 6 weeks of CV deaths. Assuming all 500k cases had CV that whole time and could have died of CV or other causes (very conservative because 400k of those have only been cases for 2 weeks), you would only expect 500 deaths non CV deaths. Instead we’ve had 19,000. That’s less than 3%.

If you do the less conservative math of 100k cases for 6 weeks, 200k cases for 2 weeks, and 200k cases for 1 week (better tracking case progression) that drops to more like 200. That’s 1%.

Making an issue of this is just a distraction. It’s immaterial and streamlines the process during the heat of the epidemic.
 
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rjd970 said:
Of course I can. There are also online providers allowing on demand rentals of movies currently in theaters.

If I were able to go out and do all that stuff and churches were still closed, then there would be legitimate beef and outrage. Likewise, if the churchgoers get exempted from the same dumb rules I have to follow, I would have legitimate outrage.

We are all in the same boat here and nobody is being singled out, no matter how hard somebody wants to paint that picture.
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You added depth to your point by commenting on drive through services.
 
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