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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
But it’s not dying out
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The numbers are going down and models say by mid June there won't be 1 person in the hospital with Coronavirus, also the top Doctors in this county say we will be better prepared for the fall wave and such extreme measures won't be needed then. So again, you're spreading fear and cheering on the Virus
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
No, what you're saying is you don't want to be wrong so at this point you're cheering the Virus on. Even though the "science" and numbers say this thing is dying out
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Volsfaninva917 said:
The numbers are going down and models say by mid June there won't be 1 person in the hospital with Coronavirus, also the top Doctors in this county say we will be better prepared for the fall wave and such extreme measures won't be needed then. So again, you're spreading fear and cheering on the Virus
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The "science" says that social distancing and the closing of non-essential businesses and the general population staying at home as much as possible is having an effect on the spread of the virus and the rise of new cases.

"The real data are telling us that it is highly likely that we're having a definite positive effect by this mitigation things that we're doing — this physical separation — so I believe we are gonna see a downturn in that. And it looks more like the 60,000 than the 100,000 to 200,000.​
"But having said that, we better be careful that we don't say, 'OK, we're doing so well we can pull back.' We still have to put our foot on the accelerator when it comes to the mitigation and the physical separation."​
Dr. Anthony Fauci says social distancing could reduce coronavirus death toll to 60,000
IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Nothing I've read has said that the virus itself is "dying out". In fact a recent study published in the European Respiratory Journal found no drop in transmission due to temperature or UV radiation. So this idea that "warm weather will make it go away", is still just wishful thinking at this point.
No Association of COVID-19 transmission with temperature or UV radiation in Chinese cities
 
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The solution to this coming season is simple:

1. Cancel Classes
2. Skip a seat in all stadiums
3. Only allow fans of the home team in the stadiums
4. All Sprites and Cokes spiked with Pure Grain Alcohol
5. Away team players must wear nose/mouth masks at all times

This is a national emergency.
 
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Volador said:
The solution to this coming season is simple:

1. Cancel Classes
2. Skip a seat in all stadiums
3. Only allow fans of the home team in the stadiums
4. All Sprites and Cokes spiked with Pure Grain Alcohol
5. Away team players must wear nose/mouth masks at all times

This is a national emergency.
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Florida players should have to wear a full biohazard suit even when covid 19 isn't an issue.
 
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BeardedVol said:
The "science" says that social distancing and the closing of non-essential businesses and the general population staying at home as much as possible is having an effect on the spread of the virus and the rise of new cases.

"The real data are telling us that it is highly likely that we're having a definite positive effect by this mitigation things that we're doing — this physical separation — so I believe we are gonna see a downturn in that. And it looks more like the 60,000 than the 100,000 to 200,000.​
"But having said that, we better be careful that we don't say, 'OK, we're doing so well we can pull back.' We still have to put our foot on the accelerator when it comes to the mitigation and the physical separation."​
Dr. Anthony Fauci says social distancing could reduce coronavirus death toll to 60,000
IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Nothing I've read has said that the virus itself is "dying out". In fact a recent study published in the European Respiratory Journal found no drop in transmission due to temperature or UV radiation. So this idea that "warm weather will make it go away", is still just wishful thinking at this point.
No Association of COVID-19 transmission with temperature or UV radiation in Chinese cities
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Again, the projections say by June this will be behind us and sure social distancing has been a huge part of that. It's also allowed us to take time to prepare how to handle this moving forward, which everyone says we will be much better prepared come fall and such extreme measures won't be needed. Now if you listen to Joe Bidens camp they want to lock the country down for 18 months which isn't possible, at all. So again, by fall we should be better equipped to fight this and hopefully we can treat this like the flu moving forward. However my issue comes with every time a piece of positive news comes out some a$$hole has to come around and tell everyone they're going to die from Corona, life is over, we will never have anything ever again, go ahead and off yourself.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Again, the projections say by June this will be behind us and sure social distancing has been a huge part of that. It's also allowed us to take time to prepare how to handle this moving forward, which everyone says we will be much better prepared come fall and such extreme measures won't be needed. Now if you listen to Joe Bidens camp they want to lock the country down for 18 months which isn't possible, at all. So again, by fall we should be better equipped to fight this and hopefully we can treat this like the flu moving forward. However my issue comes with every time a piece of positive news comes out some a$$hole has to come around and tell everyone they're going to die from Corona, life is over, we will never have anything ever again, go ahead and off yourself.
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The models assume that social distancing is maintained for the projections to be considered accurate.

Key Points Question: Assuming social distancing measures are maintained

Peak demand will be in the second week of April. We estimate 81,114 (95% UI 38,242 to 162,106) deaths in the United States from COVID-19 over the next 4 months. Meaning: Even with social distancing measures enacted and sustained, the peak demand for hospital services due to the COVID-19 pandemic is likely going to exceed capacity substantially. Alongside the implementation and enforcement of social distancing measures, there is an urgent need to develop and implement plans to reduce non-COVID-19 demand for and temporarily increase capacity of health facilities.
Forecasting COVID-19 impact on hospital bed-days, ICU-days, ventilator-days and deaths by US state in the next 4 months

"Peak demand" in April =/= "This will be over by June".

The reality is that we don't know right now when it will be over, if by by "being over" you mean going back to life exactly like it was prior to the pandemic
 
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BeardedVol said:
The models assume that social distancing is maintained for the projections to be considered accurate.

Key Points Question: Assuming social distancing measures are maintained

Peak demand will be in the second week of April. We estimate 81,114 (95% UI 38,242 to 162,106) deaths in the United States from COVID-19 over the next 4 months. Meaning: Even with social distancing measures enacted and sustained, the peak demand for hospital services due to the COVID-19 pandemic is likely going to exceed capacity substantially. Alongside the implementation and enforcement of social distancing measures, there is an urgent need to develop and implement plans to reduce non-COVID-19 demand for and temporarily increase capacity of health facilities.
Forecasting COVID-19 impact on hospital bed-days, ICU-days, ventilator-days and deaths by US state in the next 4 months

"Peak demand" in April =/= "This will be over by June".

The reality is that we don't know right now when it will be over, if by by "being over" you mean going back to life exactly like it was prior to the pandemic
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Will this be the case for May? No but we can work back to it and hopefully be there by Fall.
 
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BeardedVol said:
The models assume that social distancing is maintained for the projections to be considered accurate.

Key Points Question: Assuming social distancing measures are maintained

Peak demand will be in the second week of April. We estimate 81,114 (95% UI 38,242 to 162,106) deaths in the United States from COVID-19 over the next 4 months. Meaning: Even with social distancing measures enacted and sustained, the peak demand for hospital services due to the COVID-19 pandemic is likely going to exceed capacity substantially. Alongside the implementation and enforcement of social distancing measures, there is an urgent need to develop and implement plans to reduce non-COVID-19 demand for and temporarily increase capacity of health facilities.
Forecasting COVID-19 impact on hospital bed-days, ICU-days, ventilator-days and deaths by US state in the next 4 months

"Peak demand" in April =/= "This will be over by June".

The reality is that we don't know right now when it will be over, if by by "being over" you mean going back to life exactly like it was prior to the pandemic
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Isn't it amazing how people either ignore or refuse the facts when they want something so badly that they will risk not only their lives but the lives of 1,000s of others.

Not that this is surprising but, still, amazing.
 
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Dumbledorange said:
Isn't it amazing how people either ignore or refuse the facts when they want something so badly that they will risk not only their lives but the lives of 1,000s of others.

Not that this is surprising but, still, amazing.
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Facts? What facts? Everything has been an estimate, which has been wrong and overestimated. I get it, you want everyone to shut down and be just as miserable as you but that's not life. By the way, if the virus is so bad why were you standing out front of a Publix crying to a manager about someone smoking a cigar?
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Facts? What facts? Everything has been an estimate, which has been wrong and overestimated. I get it, you want everyone to shut down and be just as miserable as you but that's not life. By the way, if the virus is so bad why were you standing out front of a Publix crying to a manager about someone smoking a cigar?
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You do realize that the projections are based off of current clinical data correct?

Where does IHME obtain its data?
The data being used in these forecasts come from local and national governments, hospital networks like the University of Washington, the American Hospital Association, the World Health Organization, and a range of other sources. The model is updated regularly as new data are available, in order to provide the most up-to-date planning tool possible.
IHME COVID-19 model FAQs
 
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BeardedVol said:
You do realize that the projections are based off of current clinical data correct?

Where does IHME obtain its data?
The data being used in these forecasts come from local and national governments, hospital networks like the University of Washington, the American Hospital Association, the World Health Organization, and a range of other sources. The model is updated regularly as new data are available, in order to provide the most up-to-date planning tool possible.
IHME COVID-19 model FAQs
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Which is a projection, not fact. Kind of like I can tomorrow is going to rain and be 60 degrees. And if they're basing these projections off of current clinical data and the projections keep trending downward wouldn't that indicate things are improving?
 
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BeardedVol said:
You do realize that the projections are based off of current clinical data correct?

Where does IHME obtain its data?
The data being used in these forecasts come from local and national governments, hospital networks like the University of Washington, the American Hospital Association, the World Health Organization, and a range of other sources. The model is updated regularly as new data are available, in order to provide the most up-to-date planning tool possible.
IHME COVID-19 model FAQs
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I have three neighbors all working at local ICU. In a county that has well-below the state average of COVID cases, either in testing positive or hospitalization.

They are in a dead-on panic. They know it's coming, they don't know when, none of them believe that the weather will "burn it out" or any other such foolishness. I asked them if any of them, just one, would consider attending a Power 5 football game in August or September and they laughed.

As in LOL.

When you read the citations (few ON VN can, few on VN do) and talk to the medical professionals, the story line . unfogs.
 
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Dumbledorange said:
I have three neighbors all working at local ICU. In a county that has well-below the state average of COVID cases, either in testing positive or hospitalization.

They are in a dead-on panic. They know it's coming, they don't know when, none of them believe that the weather will "burn it out" or any other such foolishness. I asked them if any of them, just one, would consider attending a Power 5 football game in August or September and they laughed.

As in LOL.

When you read the citations (few ON VN can, few on VN do) and talk to the medical professionals, the story line . unfogs.
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And where do you live?
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Maybe not because it's brought to you by the same people who said 100-200k would die
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You don't seem to understand the IMHE model, or the impact that social-distancing has on it. That's fine, but you just look ignorant when you repeatedly point it out in your posts.

At present the forecast, which assumes continued social distancing, only covers the next four months and does not predict how many deaths there may be if there is a resurgence at a later point or if social distancing is not fully implemented and maintained.
IHME COVID-19 model FAQs
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Again, the projections say by June this will be behind us and sure social distancing has been a huge part of that. It's also allowed us to take time to prepare how to handle this moving forward, which everyone says we will be much better prepared come fall and such extreme measures won't be needed. Now if you listen to Joe Bidens camp they want to lock the country down for 18 months which isn't possible, at all. So again, by fall we should be better equipped to fight this and hopefully we can treat this like the flu moving forward. However my issue comes with every time a piece of positive news comes out some a$$hole has to come around and tell everyone they're going to die from Corona, life is over, we will never have anything ever again, go ahead and off yourself.
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There’s a slice of good and bad in the news...all of which must be acknowledged. Things are getting better and the economy must find a way to get back into gear, at least partially, asap. On the other hand 2000+ people have died in last TWO days in NY/NJ area alone...everyone of which is someone’s dad or grandparent or brother or sister. So, I think they’d argue that everything’s sunshine and roses. By the fall we will have a better handle on everything, including most importantly supply chain on health care, and possible future cures. I still have a problem seeing how all of this adds up to normalcy in the fall with college football being played. No way it’s 18 month lag, but this won’t be “over” by June.
 
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Take it for what it’s worth but the SEC Network ran a trailer on the Finebaum show just now with some poll results on this very subject. I believe it said 71% of the respondents said they would not attend games this fall without a vaccine in place. (Which of course is not enough time to be approved.) I’m in that camp. You guys do what you like but there’s not a chance in Hades that I’m sitting in a stadium with 100,000 people if there’s a chance this mess is coming back. And nobody is going to know if that’s going to be the case or not.
 
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