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hog88 said:
I think it would. Take the .gov out of the equation and costs plummet. Remember, I'm saying only catastrophic major medical plans would be available. Everything else comes out of your pocket. Plus the premiums you pay would be 100% tax deductible and contributions to an HSA would be pre-tax.
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It's not the marketplace that's making the premiums so high. It's all the Obamacare requirements that do. If you let companies underwrite policies again then yeah, the prices would fall a great deal...but then you'd also have to have another plan for the folks with pre existing conditions. So long as you require insurance companies to cover them, premiums will be unaffordable
 
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luthervol said:
I'm a horrible speller. Never denied that. Nor do I really care.
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As stated it wasn't so much the spelling error itself as the word and contextual usage at the time. I think if you go back and read it you'll see what I'm on about. No biggie, just an inconvenient time for that kind of "misstake".
 
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volfan_89 said:
If it’s a true emergency you’ll get the care you need. If it’s something that can wait, then it can wait. That another problem with America healthcare. Unnecessary emergency medical treatment. In Canada for example, if you go to the ER with a gallbladder attack they schedule your surgery and send you home with a diet to follow to help prevent future attacks. In the US they’d do the surgery right away, which further drives up the cost of care. Many times a gallbladder attack isn’t life threatening and doesn’t need emergency treatment but in the US it’s treated like it does.
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So you go broke from not being able to work like my wifes cousin in England. Herniated disc, had to wait 13 months. He couldnt work with it, no income. Had to go broke going private which his more inflated than the US without insurance or go broke not working for over a year.
 
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Sea Ray said:
And to tie this back to the title of this thread, hospitals are losing out on that money right now.

Where I live in SW Ohio, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) as of yesterday had 15 C19 patients currently hospitalized. Their hospitals were at 48% capacity. Where's this surge everyone's talking about? Why is the national guard currently setting up our convention center as a hospital? Why would we have a surge a month or so after we've been quarantined? It makes about as much sense as these IMHE models that our gov't has been pushing to us every day. just one week ago they (Dr Birx) told us that if we did everything perfectly we were looking at 200K deaths. yesterday they revised that to 60K
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Sea Ray said:
It's not the marketplace that's making the premiums so high. It's all the Obamacare requirements that do. If you let companies underwrite policies again then yeah, the prices would fall a great deal...but then you'd also have to have another plan for the folks with pre existing conditions. So long as you require insurance companies to cover them, premiums will be unaffordable
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You/we are subsidizing people with pre-exsisting conditions on plans with co-pays, prescriptions, low deductibles ext. Still would on to a degree on catastrophic plans but much less so.
 
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Sea Ray said:
And to tie this back to the title of this thread, hospitals are losing out on that money right now.

Where I live in SW Ohio, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) as of yesterday had 15 C19 patients currently hospitalized. Their hospitals were at 48% capacity. Where's this surge everyone's talking about? Why is the national guard currently setting up our convention center as a hospital? Why would we have a surge a month or so after we've been quarantined? It makes about as much sense as these IMHE models that our gov't has been pushing to us every day. just one week ago they (Dr Birx) told us that if we did everything perfectly we were looking at 200K deaths. yesterday they revised that to 60K
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Yeah that I’m not sure about. The conspiracy theorist in me feel like something might be happening that they’re not telling us about.

I know here they’ve had a continuance pay for employees that had hours cut by the stoppage of elective procedures. But as of yesterday, that stopped. We’re still getting paid but we have to stay at the hospital and can’t leave and get paid. Which is understandable enough but we’re getting paid to literally do nothing all day.
I’m glad I still have job and I’m getting paid though.
 
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Trump continues to insist testing in the US is "the best." He insisted on it, yesterday. I just don't get it. He refuses to admit that we are far behind where we should be, and where others are relative ot their populations.

By Trumpian logic, a country with 350 million people in it that tests three of those people is doing a much better job than a country of ten people that has tested one.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump continues to insist testing in the US is "the best." He insisted on it, yesterday. I just don't get it. He refuses to admit that we are far behind where we should be, and where others are relative ot their populations.

By Trumpian logic, a country with 350 million people in it that tests three of those people is doing a much better job than a country of ten people that has tested one.
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Did he say our testing is the best? Or did he say we are testing more than anyone else in the world....
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Just imagine if the death totals come in way under the 6 figure doom and gloom initial estimates....guess who is getting credit for that!

Poor Democrats, never had a chance in 2020
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Why wouldn’t the governors and localities get credit? They’re the ones instituting policy and managing the crisis.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump continues to insist testing in the US is "the best." He insisted on it, yesterday. I just don't get it. He refuses to admit that we are far behind where we should be, and where others are relative ot their populations.

By Trumpian logic, a country with 350 million people in it that tests three of those people is doing a much better job than a country of ten people that has tested one.
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Part of me thinks they’re not resting on purpose to keep numbers low. More testing is definitely needed though. It’s the only way to track it and know what to attribute to it.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Why wouldn’t the governors and localities get credit? They’re the ones instituting policy and managing the crisis.
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Oh they will. Just like Trump will for overseeing it all. I bet democrats focus on a bogus impeachment trial is gonna come back to haunt them.

Like I said, the left never had a chance.
 
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