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titansvolsfaninga said:
no, they are calling people who have Covid-19 and other underlying issues victims of Covid-19, which is true. The Covid-19 triggers the underlying issues which were present before but manageable. I think the question that is asked and answered, was the person managing the underlying issues. Would they have died that day if Covid-19 was not present in their system. If the answer is yes, they were managing their health, and no they would not have died without Covid-19 in their system, they are being classified as casualties of Covid-19.
Who is this they? You are saying there is a coordinated effort between ME's in 50 states to inflate these numbers....that is a pretty tall task. Do they have a private group chat?
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you have no clue of how it works
 
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Hypothetically speaking, let’s say COVID19 is here to stay long term. Like a Seasonal flu perhaps or maybe it will be a virus that remains viable and spreads regardless of season. I have spoken with a few medical professionals here at UTMC on this matter and have received a mixture of opinions on the subject. One prominent immunologist told me that the he believes this virus will not disappear completely. The infections will definitely slow down but eventually, infections will spike back up. He essentially said that just about everyone will become exposed. Some will require hospitalization resulting in death, but most will recover from home similar to the flu showing mild symptoms. Humans are going to have to live with this virus one way or another. Flattening the curve at home is great but that is only temporary until legit treatments come available and a vaccine is created. If you have a strong immune system with no underlying health conditions your chances of surviving are high. Sadly, the data I have seen suggests that if you are on the other end of the spectrum health wise, chances of overcoming COVID19 decrease. We cannot stay in our homes forever; it is just not possible. Most of this information he provided we all already know & have heard many times. What opinions do you all have on this survival of the fittest idea? Thoughts?
 
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LouderVol said:
Right. To. Try. There is no proven, tested, drug for this. You really expect the world to just sit there and not try something?
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you kind of expect the medical community to approach it the same way they approach every drug, by doing clinical trials and so forth. I think they are kind of pressured because donald keeps touting it, and fox news keeps touting it, people are demanding it. Saying that it works, and then anecdotal stories come out.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
you kind of expect the medical community to approach it the same way they approach every drug, by doing clinical trials and so forth. I think they are kind of pressured because donald keeps touting it, and fox news keeps touting it, people are demanding it. Saying that it works, and then anecdotal stories come out.
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I think they're pressured because we're facing a global pandemic. Has nothing to do with Trump. That's just political mudslinging IMO.
 
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Yeah, I see how this is setting up now. As more news of that drug's success on coronavirus patients comes out, the media will be pumping out more propaganda about the alleged side effects. That way, they may be able to somehow blame or maybe prosecute (???) Trump some kind of way after this is over if a bunch of people suffer from side effects.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
you kind of expect the medical community to approach it the same way they approach every drug, by doing clinical trials and so forth. I think they are kind of pressured because donald keeps touting it, and fox news keeps touting it, people are demanding it. Saying that it works, and then anecdotal stories come out.
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I am in no way trying to be mean, but you should do a little more research on this topic. Try staying away from “news” stories and search medical literature. I suggest PubMed. It’s a very large database of all current published medical literature. I think you might find some things that alter your opinion.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Side effects?
  • headache.
  • dizziness.
  • loss of appetite.
  • nausea.
  • diarrhea.
  • stomach pain.
  • vomiting.
  • skin rash.
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another side effect has to do with the heart
Hydroxychloroquine, Mayo Clinic said, blocks one of the channels that controls the heart's electrical recharging systems. "This interference increases the possibility that the heart's rhythm could degenerate into dangerous erratic heart beats, resulting ultimately in sudden cardiac death."
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Side effects?
  • headache.
  • dizziness.
  • loss of appetite.
  • nausea.
  • diarrhea.
  • stomach pain.
  • vomiting.
  • skin rash.
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If this drug was new I’d be right there with them complaining . This drug is decades old and has been used not just for malaria but for arthritis and lupus around the planet . They are just now discovering a drug may cause side effects in certain people ? Smh ? It’s just ridiculous
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
another side effect has to do with the heart
Hydroxychloroquine, Mayo Clinic said, blocks one of the channels that controls the heart's electrical recharging systems. "This interference increases the possibility that the heart's rhythm could degenerate into dangerous erratic heart beats, resulting ultimately in sudden cardiac death."
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Going outside increases your chances of getting struck by lightning. Oh no!
 
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newyorkvol said:
I am in no way trying to be mean, but you should do a little more research on this topic. Try staying away from “news” stories and search medical literature. I suggest PubMed. It’s a very large database of all current published medical literature. I think you might find some things that alter your opinion.
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i work with NIH.....we do clinical trials. I know how clinical trials work.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
What opinions do you all have on this survival of the fittest idea? Thoughts?
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This is the way it has been and will continue to be throughout human history. You and I are here because our ancestors were the fortunate ones to have effective immune responses to plagues and pandemics. Modern medical science can help but the germs mutate and adapt.
 
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