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OHvol40 said:
Googling side effects of a drug is not the same as treating someone with it off-label for a deadly a novel virus. Sit down.
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Stands back up ... tells you that the side effects are listed on the CDC website , asks you if your hospital that you work at or it’s Drs at their practices affiliated with your hospital is administering this drug in hopes of it helping the patients . I have more knowledge than just a simple google search you F’in quack 🖕🏻
 
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#33,030
OHvol40 said:
What doctor told him about it, and why don’t we hear it from them? Trump can’t even say the name without sounding like he’s having a stroke.
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So you're saying he's a brilliant genius then.
 
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volbeast33 said:
If you get sick.... can’t breathe.... better than average chance of dying..... are you going to what to be given this drug or not?
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Yes he will , he will be the first one trying to suck enough air in to request it .
 
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volbeast33 said:
If you get sick.... can’t breathe.... better than average chance of dying..... are you going to what to be given this drug or not?
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Based on the evidence my hospital has seen, no. Every physician there agrees as well. Too much risk for liver complications. There are literally dozens of other drugs that are being tried. I don’t get the obsession with this one... other than the obsession with Trump.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Stands back up ... tells you that the side effects are listed on the CDC website , asks you if your hospital that you work at or it’s Drs at their practices affiliated with your hospital is administering this drug in hopes of it helping the patients . I have more knowledge than just a simple google search you F’in quack 🖕🏻
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I’ve gone over this extensively if you want to go back.
 
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Since Trump's opinion on hydroxychloroquine clearly came from his own brain and had zero to do with evidence or consultation with doctors, can we all agree that he is a medical genius like The Good Doctor if it proves itself as en effective treatment?
 
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Weezer said:
If Obama were still President and said the same thing, would we have this outrage? I highly doubt it. It's not about what was said, it's about Trump, which is stupid. It doesn't matter who tells you about it. It doesn't change that you check with your doctor.
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If Obama was President, he would know not to run his mouth about something he knows nothing about.

I miss Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, .........
 
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OHvol40 said:
Based on the evidence my hospital has seen, no. Every physician there agrees as well. Too much risk for liver complications. There are literally doses of other drugs that are being tried. I don’t get the obsession with this one... other than the obsession with Trump.
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Or it could be some doctors are reporting success using it. But hey, that doesn't matter at all. Just that Trump mentioned it.
 
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#33,039
OHvol40 said:
Based on the evidence my hospital has seen, no. Every physician there agrees as well. Too much risk for liver complications. There are literally doses of other drugs that are being tried. I don’t get the obsession with this one... other than the obsession with Trump.
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So you are your Dr friends have found that this causes liver damage on a short term usage but the CDC hasn’t ?
 
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OHvol40 said:
I agree, be intuitive. But...
Critical thinking skill does not = a medical degree... which is what you should have to speak to the public about experimental medications. I promise no advanced practitioner would call a drug with inconclusive, anecdotal findings “a gift from god” in front of millions of people.
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Why does it matter? You don’t have to take it and can’t take it without that advanced practitioner .
 
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#33,042
OHvol40 said:
Based on the evidence my hospital has seen, no. Every physician there agrees as well. Too much risk for liver complications. There are literally doses of other drugs that are being tried. I don’t get the obsession with this one... other than the obsession with Trump.
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I think he's counting on the "you heard it here first, folks" told ya so, if it pans out. He's all-in on it. Imagine what he could do for the infection rate, if he'd just put on a damned mask, one time.
 
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Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive

Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.

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RFA noted that it could not independently verify that the Chinese Communist Party was burning coronavirus patients alive, nor has the Communist Party confirmed or denied the rumors. Yet the rumors persist that, to make room for new patients in Wuhan’s overcrowded hospitals, medical staff chose older patients less likely to survive the infection and shipped them to incinerators while they were still alive and conscious.

RFA quoted a source “close to the funeral industry” identified only as Ma who said that he had heard reports of “people restrained and forced into body bags when they were still moving.”

“Some people are saying that … there are video clips of screams coming from funeral homes, from inside the furnaces … which tells us that some people were taken to the funeral homes while they were still alive,” Ma added.

Ma also noted the existence of video testimony from an anonymous older woman who had been treated at a Wuhan hospital, presumably for Chinese coronavirus.

“One old lady was saying that they put one guy into … a body bag when he wasn’t even dead yet, and took him off to the crematorium because there was no way of saving him,” Ma told RFA.

Video of an older woman speaking anonymously to a camera began circulating on social media in February in which she said she witnessed a patient next to her at a Wuhan hospital stuffed into a body bag while still alive.

“He’s not dead, his feet and hands are still moving,” the woman says, “[They] wrapped him in a plastic body bag and zipped it up.”

The Taiwanese outlet Taiwan News traced the origin of the video to a Chinese student group called “Youth Production,” who reportedly uploaded the video on February 24. Taiwan News noted that the woman claimed to have suffered from coronavirus symptoms but, as she was in her 60s, she did not suffer severe symptoms, unlike the man taken away, who she estimated was in his 70s.

“She said that the man was weak but was still breathing when medical workers ‘bound his head’ and then his hands and feet, which were ‘still moving,’” Taiwan News reported, noting that she also lamented that the hospital where she received care had no other treatments available for coronavirus patients besides oxygen. In the West, doctors have begun experimenting with several drug mixtures, one of which — a combination of antibiotics and hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat lupus and malaria — has generated optimism in American hospitals.

The woman said she felt older patients at the hospital were treated “like dead dogs.”

Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive
 
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0nelilreb said:
So you are your Dr friends have found that this causes liver damage on a short term usage but the CDC hasn’t ?
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In sick, compromised patients, yes. Just like it does with lupus patients. So go ahead and read up on it and get back to me.
 
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Mick said:
If Obama was President, he would know not to run his mouth about something he knows nothing about.

I miss Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, .........
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Except he did. All Presidents do. That's why they have advisors, because they don't know much about a lot.
 
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#33,046
OHvol40 said:
When prognosticating about the prospects of it’s efficacy, yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.
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Ok then, please please bitch away. Or does Cuomo have his MD?

"On the drug therapy, Tuesday we're going to start the hydroxychloroquine with the Zithromax. That's the drug combination that the President has been talking about," he said. "The FDA approved the state to proceed with an experimental drug on a compassionate care basis."

"It takes the plasma from a person who has been infected with the virus, processes the plasma and injects the antibodies into a person who is sick," he explained.

"And there have been tests that show when a person is injected with the antibodies, that then stimulates and promotes the immune system against that disease," he said.

"It’s only a trial, it’s a trial for people who are in serious condition, but the New York State Department of Health has been working on this with some of New York’s best health care agencies and we think it shows promise and we’re going to be starting that this week."
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N.Y. Gov. Andrew Cuomo Announces State Will Try Experimental Drug Combination Trump Has Been Talking About
 
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Weezer said:
Anecdotal evidence does not equal unsubstantiated.
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Just which Anecdotal evidences was substantiated and what do you consider substantiated. Is there a correlation between the drug and benefits for CoV19? It's all anecdotal until it's substantiated.
 
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#33,050
OHvol40 said:
I’ve gone over this extensively if you want to go back.
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Lol .. I’d fire you and if I made it through I’d sue you if you refused to give it to me and make you show everyone in court why you did . After with the knowledge that other drugs you administer to patients on the daily is far more dangerous with worse or at this point any side effects .
 
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