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What motivated fellow SEALs to dime out Eddie Gallagher?
Navy Times staff
April 22, 2019
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Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher in Iraq in 2017. (courtesy photo)
On May 28, Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher will be guided into a courtroom inside Naval Base San Diego, where he will face a panel of his peers sifting evidence in a war crimes case.
It will mark a sea change in the sea service’s clandestine and close-knit cadre of SEALs, a secretive and elite military force that rarely testifies against each other, especially in war crimes probes attracting an international audience.
But Gallagher faces a long line of SEALs prepared to provide damning testimony under oath against him.
One of the members of Gallagher’s unit — Alpha Platoon, SEAL Team 7 — is expected to testify that Gallagher confessed that he “killed four women,” according to Naval Criminal Investigative Service files and legal records provided to Navy Times.
Two other SEAL petty officers told investigators Gallagher bragged about slaying “10-20 people a day or 150-200 people on deployment,” court documents state.

And a fellow sniper intends to tell the panel that Gallagher claimed, “he averaged three kills a day over 80 days,” according to legal filings obtained by Navy Times.
Three other SEALs are slated to say their platoon chief took "random shots, sometimes into buildings, where he claimed to have killed someone,” similar filings allege.
One of the SEALs overhead the chief say he was “OK with shooting women” and another saw him “fire into a crowd of what appeared to be noncombatants multiple times," records state.
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And still more SEALs say they’ll tell the panel that Gallagher attempted to cover up these alleged crimes by threatening to murder witnesses and embarking on a campaign to identify other whistleblowers, get them blacklisted in the special warfare community and ruin their careers.

Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher in Iraq in 2017. (courtesy photo)
The most serious allegation against Gallagher, 39, is a premeditated murder charge in connection with the stabbing death of an unarmed and seriously wounded Islamic State fighter near the Iraqi city of Mosul in 2017.
But this isn’t going to be like the typical murder case.

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Investigators found no bodies, so no autopsies were performed.
Photographic and video images reviewed by Navy Times seem fragmentary and inconclusive. Multiple pieces of GoPro footage are missing and prosecutors say they can’t locate them.

From your article, class act this guy. Rational people who've read a little about this guy aren't impressed with Eddie nor do they support him, frankly - he sounds like a sociopath.

And still more SEALs say they’ll tell the panel that Gallagher attempted to cover up these alleged crimes by threatening to murder witnesses and embarking on a campaign to identify other whistleblowers, get them blacklisted in the special warfare community and ruin their careers.

 

[vols40]

The SEALs and the Navy disagree.

Are you talking about the guy who was asked to step down? Still has the pin. 4 life!

 

[vols40]

From your article, class act this guy. Rational people who've read a little about this guy aren't impressed with Eddie nor do they support him, frankly - he sounds like a sociopath.

Look if your scared say your scared

 

[Septic]

Look if your scared say your scared

wut?

Look, we all get it - you're having a tough time reconciling that Trump stuck his nose where it didn't belong. If propping up a scumbag like Eddie G makes you feel better about yourself, then good for you.

 

[evillawyer]

I still want to know what deaths are those WITH covid-19 and which deaths are those BECAUSE covid-19.

The context that is lost in all this is better/more testing is identifying more positive cases, and deaths that will happen anyway are being counted under the covid-19 umbrella. Simply put, more testing results in more covid-19 deaths, not necessarily because it means covid-19 is that much more deadly.

Im still in the camp, even now while sitting at home under government orders, that we are going to look back in 6 months and give a collective “WTF were we thinking”.

Causation is not an easy topic. If I chase you into a swamp with a gun and you get eaten by an alligator, was I the cause of your death or was it the alligator? Similarly, if the coronavirus causes a spike in your heart rate that otherwise wouldn't have occured and you have a heart attack and die because you have heart disease, what is the cause of your death?

 

[1972 Grad]

I don’t have, never have had, and never will have a Twitter account.

Me too. I don't understand who's talking to whom.

 

[Septic]

Are you talking about the guy who was asked to step down? Still has the pin. 4 life!

Most folks are impressed with honor and character, not you though - shiny objects are more your speed.

 

[n_huffhines]

Thus illustrating that the best thing about being Libertarian is you get to bitch about everybody with no real fear that you’ll ever actually win an election and have to prove anything.

Sure, but it's a better position than being a part of the problem

 

[evillawyer]

That's ... not good.

 

[1972 Grad]

Thus illustrating that the best thing about being Libertarian is you get to bitch about everybody with no real fear that you’ll ever actually win an election and have to prove anything.

This times 100. They are a bunch of pu$$ies that stand on the sideline and bitch. After it's over, they Monday morning quarterback. They shun responsibility because they don't ever grow up.

 

[rjd970]

Causation is not an easy topic. If I chase you into a swamp with a gun and you get eaten by an alligator, was I the cause of your death or was it the alligator? Similarly, if the coronavirus causes a spike in your heart rate that otherwise wouldn't have occured and you have a heart attack and die because you have heart disease, what is the cause of your death?

Or, if you have COPD and getting the Flu or COVID-19 kills you but evidence shows you would have survived the Flu or COVID-19 otherwise ( like the stats show) what is the real cause of death?

I can see it both ways, but if diabetes, COPD, emphysema, etc make your more susceptible to ANY disease, COVID-19 included, what is the real killer?

 

[vols40]

Most folks are impressed with honor and character, not you though - shiny objects are more your speed.

Don't be jealous.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Been saying it for sometime. If this can be proven, china has a steep price to pay.

 

[Weezer]

Having some states with stay at home orders, and some with no such orders, is like having a "peeing allowed" zone in a swimming pool.

I call BS on anyone who says they don't pee in the pool.

 

[rjd970]

That's ... not good.

100,000 deaths by when? Wtf does this tweet even mean?

This thing is here to stay. Guarantee we will hit 100K deaths at some point. The issue is if we hit that in a month, it’s a problem. If we hit that number in three years, then it isn’t as big a problem.

I still question the causation and and real mortality rate with this thing.

 

[KB5252]

If we put up a ham sandwich, that'd be a better option than Trump.

If you truly believe this it calls into question your reasoning and intellectual capacity. I suspect at some level you're just being over the top. But part of me can't help but think there is some but if truth in that statement from you. And that's the sad part, please consider that coming from someone who doesn't back 65% of what Trump does and says.

 

[1972 Grad]

100,000 deaths by when? Wtf does this tweet even mean?

This thing is here to stay. Guarantee we will hit 100K deaths at some point. The issue is if we hit that in a month, it’s a problem. If we hit that number in three years, then it isn’t as big a problem.

I still question the causation and and real mortality rate with this thing.

I think my prediction was 61,000+ a week or ten days ago.

 

[vols40]

wut?

Look, we all get it - you're having a tough time reconciling that Trump stuck his nose where it didn't belong. If propping up a scumbag like Eddie G makes you feel better about yourself, then good for you.

Look I'm saying that I have the ability to read the story and see holes in the prosecutors case. I really don't give much thought to how bad people are killed during war.
No body/ autopsy
No murder weapon although some Iraqi DNA may have been present.
Unexplained missing camera footage.

Yes I think there are holes in the case. But if you feel this strongly about it you can look ole EG up and pay him a visit.

 

[Weezer]

Don't be jealous.

If he did indeed kill unarmed civilians and children, do you think that's okay? Why would several SEALs speak up, and basically risk their standing in the community, to make false allegations?

 

[NCFisher]

I would think the guy who actually consolidated the three directorates to be a tad bit biased and bound to see the consolidation as a good thing. His opinion is virtually meaningless.

I'd think he was onto something since Obama, like Trump, repeatedly attempted to cull CDC funding:
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When Biden was vice president, in the FY2013 budget, the Obama administration sought a $569 billion cut in the CDC budget, from the 2012 budget of $6.46 billion down to $5.9 billion.

In FY2015, the Obama administration wanted a $414 million cut year-over-year, and again in the 2017 budget, Obama looked to eliminate $251 million in CDC funding.

The proposed cuts consider money budgeted for the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which was established under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010, or Obamacare.

When not including that fund, the Obama administration sought to cut the CDC budget in five of its eight years.

The Wall Street Journal reported in 2012:

“Now, President Obama’s 2012 budget calls for paring some of that spending. Funding for a public health emergency preparedness program run by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was cut by about $72 million below fiscal 2010 levels in the budget proposal.”

It did not stop there. In 2013, a post from the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy said:

“The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) takes a hit of about $270 million in the Obama administration’s proposed fiscal year 2014 budget, including significant cuts to biodefense and emergency preparedness programs.”

It continued in 2015, when Obama called for $50 million in budget cuts during a measles outbreak—and White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest’s claims that Obamacare would pick up the slack were rated false by the Washington Post’s fact-checker.

“Chipping away at 317 funds—even if the majority of cuts are going toward vaccine purchases—jeopardizes the immunization system in general, public-health officials and advocates say.

It restricts the ability of local public health officials and advocates say.

It restricts the ability of local public health departments to prepare for and respond to outbreaks and educate providers,” Chris Aldridge, senior director for infectious disease at the National Association of County and City Health Officials told the Washington Post in 2015.

While the Trump administration’s budget proposed cutting the funding for the CDC and NIH, it was rejected by Congress.

Money that was first slated to be tapped to help fight the current coronavirus outbreak was a congressional fund crated for health emergencies, which was the fund that was protected from cuts.

Some public health experts have also stated that there has been a steady erosion of a CDC grant program for state and local public health emergency preparedness—however the decline in those grants was started by a congressional budget measure that predates the Trump administration.

“The CDC’s response has been excellent, as it has been in the past,” said John Auerbach, president of the nonpartisan Trust for America’s Health, which works with government at various levels to improve the nation’s response to high-risk health issues.

While some Democrats, playing politics like they always do, have said that the president devastated the nation’s public health leadership, Auerbach’s statements dispute that, saying CDC’s top scientific ranks have remained stable since Trump took office.
Biden says Trump slashed the CDC budget...ignores the fact that Obama tried to cut millions again and again.
http://www.letunity.com/

 

[vols40]

If he did indeed kill unarmed civilians and children, do you think that's okay? Why would several SEALs speak up, and basically risk their standing in the community, to make false allegations?

No of course not. But that was not proven.

 

[Weezer]

If we put up a ham sandwich, that'd be a better option than Trump.

Probably a better option than Biden. I like ham sandwiches. You'll get more votes in the south if you spell it sammiches, tho.

 

[Weezer]

No of course not. But that was not proven.

I read the lawyer's spin, but don't buy it. I ask again, why would several SEALs risk their standing in the community to make false allegations. Gallagher was getting close to retirement anyway, so "they didn't like him" isn't valid reasoning.

 

[NCFisher]

Lol. “YoUr a LibErAl!”

What exactly do you think I should disprove and why?

He all but admitted he wouldn’t trust Trump to staff a McDonald’s drive thru. The truth or validity of this one anecdote clearly didn’t change that for him. So why bother?

It’s purely an attempt to try to change the subject to one smaller, more manageable story that doesn’t even support the conclusions he’s drawing from it.

Wow...how you derive that from my post is your own intangible mystery.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Does it concern anyone else the model they printed out this week was made in Excel? Guys... I would like to think the best epidemiologists in the world aren't out here using Excel.