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Death is inevitable you’re right. But 30 years ago my cancer was 100% fatal. Now I can be cured. Slowing disease so we can fight and possibly cure it is not stupid. But feel free to go contribute in you’re own way.
Radiation for two months saved my life two years ago. God bless you medical folks out there, you're doing God's work. :)
 
Cause I’m bored. What do y’all rate our last two classes? I know we haven’t seen the 20 class, but let’s assume based on rankings.
 
I've been following multiple sources that are attempting to track the virus here in America and the Covid Tracking Project started tracking hospitalizations related to the virus on Sat, Mar 21st, 13 days ago. None of the sources are in exact agreement for obvious reasons but they are all pretty close to each other. Anyway, it could be a bit premature but it looks like the hospitalizations curve may be trying to flatten out a bit. The slope seems to be dropping. Hopefully the curve will roll over in the next few days.

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I've been following multiple sources that are attempting to track the virus here in America and the Covid Tracking Project started tracking hospitalizations related to the virus on Sat, Mar 21st, 13 days ago. None of the sources are in exact agreement for obvious reasons but they are all pretty close to each other. Anyway, it could be a bit premature but it looks like the hospitalizations curve may be trying to flatten out a bit. The slope seems to be dropping. Hopefully the curve will roll over in the next few days.

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That would be awesome. Just need relatively under control, testing readily available, respirators and PPE in production to meet demand and we can start a tentative return.

Don't need perfection and can't expect eradication. We just got off to a really poor start and forced ourselves to play catch up.
 
The rate of under 50 deaths is apparently much worse in the south than the rest of the country, possibly because of DM and obesity. For some reason New Orleans is particularly bad.
Diabetes in 40%, obesity in 27%, chronic liver problems 25% and cardiac issues. Similar study has found diabetes, pre-diabetics, and obesity are common factors in C19 deaths.
 
I've been following multiple sources that are attempting to track the virus here in America and the Covid Tracking Project started tracking hospitalizations related to the virus on Sat, Mar 21st, 13 days ago. None of the sources are in exact agreement for obvious reasons but they are all pretty close to each other. Anyway, it could be a bit premature but it looks like the hospitalizations curve may be trying to flatten out a bit. The slope seems to be dropping. Hopefully the curve will roll over in the next few days.

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And to help this, possible treatments are starting to become clearer. Dr. Stephen Smith, an infectious disease specialist, is having great success with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. There’s beginning to be multiple studies pointing in this same direction. We have a treatment. Now just get it refined and to the masses.

Great interview where he said:
“It’s a game changer. It’s an absolute game changer. I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic.”

Watch the whole thing here:
Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: 'I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic'
 
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I may be misunderstanding what you meant but higher end moderate and severe symptoms in Covid aren't in that level of rarity.
Dude 45+ percent on the Diamond Princess were completely asymptomatic. Had it and didn't even feel sick at all..just one example. This is not a big deal for the vast majority of people..plus you know as well as I that the numbers are complety f 'd because a huge amount of people get it and never even get tested...The great danger of this virus is the crazy ease of infection that cause such quick and massive numbers of infected, and it's brutality towards the old and sick.


If this thing infected at the same rate as influenza, the number of healthy people getting critically ill would not be any worse, saying that..it is more dangerous because it easily infects vastly more numbers quicker.
 
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And to help this, possible treatments are starting to become clearer. Dr. Stephen Smith, an infectious disease specialist, is having great success with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. There’s beginning to be multiple studies pointing in this same direction. We have a treatment. Now just get it refined and to the masses.

Great interview where he said:


Watch the whole thing here:
Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: 'I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic'

I hope we have contingencies for rapid manufacturing for whatever they come up with. The irony of having to rely on the "treatment" coming from China would not escape many.
 
87% of the dead in Italy were over 70, and that was not counting the other age groups with underlying health issues...

I am not digging up all the freakin numbers that have been posted here over and over.

I did not mean to be snarky...I have just had a veeeerrry stressful day...and I take this deadly seriously,
I have thought 100 times today "screw this I am turning around and going back to Harlan..then Imma stay in my house for the next two months."..but I refuse to be ruled by fear. Just in the last six months I have been nearly killed by other drivers 5-6 times...I would be safer staying at home, but...I am not doing that.

I've got the place for you except it's too late to go. There's an old mountaintop fortress town in Spain, Zahara de la Sierra, that early on completely shut down access to all outsiders even though it's a big tourist destination. Any vehicle coming into the single open entrance is disinfected. No visitors allowed. Shopping is done for the elderly by two women. They even outfitted a car with lights and music so it could entertain kids from their windows and balconies. So far not a single case of COVID-19,

I have to go to office today. At age 60+ I know I'm in exposed group but we're trying to keep from laying off any of our employees and I have some things that can't be done from home. At least I have some N-95 face masks since I'm a bit of a prepper. I can always break out my military grade chemical/biological full face masks but that would really freak people out.
 
Exactly. Basically we’re delaying the inevitable by self quarantining in terms of the disease, while harming society at large. I’m right out of college and a few of my friends have lost their jobs because of this. Small businesses are getting killed right now. I’m torn too and I don’t want to come off as cold. But all of this will have been a waste if the country collapses to stop a virus that kills 1% of the population

You do know that 1% of the population would be 3 million dead. And it's clear that the virus can cause significant long-term health problems for those who are symptomatic but who don't die. Think about what that level of long-term disability and death would do to the economy. By the way, I'm 60+, still work full-time. If I go that's about 3-4 people my company lays off because of work I produce for them to do.
 
Dude 45+ percent on the Diamond Princess were completely asymptomatic. Had it and didn't even feel sick at all..just one example. This is not a big deal for the vast majority of people..plus you know as well as I that the numbers are complety f 'd because a huge amount of people get it and never even get tested...The great danger of this virus is the crazy ease of infection that cause such quick and massive numbers of infected, and it's brutality towards the old and sick.


If this thing infected at the same rate as influenza, the number of healthy people getting critically ill would not be any worse, saying that..it is more dangerous because it easily infects vastly more numbers quicker.

If you believe it's that infectious, as do I, then it's just perspective on what each of us consider "outlier".
14% of known cases reach hospitalization stage and that is when varying degrees of damage occurs.

We agree on the "crazy ease of infection".
For me, a disease that can transmit thru the population with that level of ease, 14% of those are at high risk for damage, isn't a negligible number.
I'm not trying to change your opinion, haven't done so with anyone.
 
And to help this, possible treatments are starting to become clearer. Dr. Stephen Smith, an infectious disease specialist, is having great success with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. There’s beginning to be multiple studies pointing in this same direction. We have a treatment. Now just get it refined and to the masses.

Great interview where he said:


Watch the whole thing here:
Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: 'I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic'
And you get a ❤️
 
I hope we have contingencies for rapid manufacturing for whatever they come up with. The irony of having to rely on the "treatment" coming from China would not escape many.
Forget that!!! If costs a little extra to have it made in the USA, then do it! Let the health insurance companies pay for some of it, since they have made tons of money off people for so long! Health insurance is fraud with premiums we are charged these days.
 
I just don’t understand this. I’m far from a socialist and not bent of shape over much of this. I’m trying to protect my family, both young kids and parents. I’ve been in spots where I was probably at risk, with what I now know in hindsight. I would prefer others follow this as well so that we can get this behind us sooner than later.
It's really not a difficult concept. It is about safety.
 
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