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jakez4ut said:
context.....this isn't some political movement trying to change our way of life.

it's one of the most unique issues that's presented itself to humanity in modern history.....

so if that kind of situation requires equally unique measures in response, i think we're up to task to handle it accordingly, w/out upending the bill of rights in the process.

basically, i'm not worried about my God given rights going away as a result of this. no one should be.....
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Throughout history, rights are taken away during times of crisis. I bet you said the same thing in 2001. "The patriot act is only temporary"
 
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utvols88 said:
Throughout history, rights are take away during times of crisis. I bet you said the same thing in 2001. "The patriot act is only temporary"
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hey, if your bound and determined to believe it is just gonna be that way, i'm not here to stop you....lol.

but i think it's still being overblown by quite a bit, given the circumstance.

as for the Patriot act....it's unrelated to this, but i'll just say......i've got nothing to worry about in regards to that...as do the vast majority of people in this country.
and besides, one thing that could be simialr is that we'l probably never know how much disaster that has saved us from, nor will we ever really know the extent of the invasion of privacy supposedly going on for "normal" folks. it's probably worse than i think it is, and probablly not as bad as you do...lol.

same with this pandemic, measures we take right now, for as long as we take, we really won't ever know just how many livest that might save.

i think, however, if nothing else, we've shown to have a firm grasp of ever single worst case scenario out there.....so i'm gonna guess "a lot".....
 
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jakez4ut said:
hey, if your bound and determined to believe it is just gonna be that way, i'm not here to stop you....lol.

but i think it's still being overblown by quite a bit, given the circumstance.

as for the Patriot act....it's unrelated to this, but i'll just say......i've got nothing to worry about in regards to that...as do the vast majority of people in this country.
and besides, one thing that could be simialr is that we'l probably never know how much disaster that has saved us from, nor will we ever really know the extent of the invasion of privacy supposedly going on for "normal" folks. it's probably worse than i think it is, and probablly not as bad as you do...lol.

same with this pandemic, measures we take right now, for as long as we take, we really won't ever know just how many livest that might save.

i think, however, if nothing else, we've shown to have a firm grasp of ever single worst case scenario out there.....so i'm gonna guess "a lot".....
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I hope mandated measures are never used again. But I dont trust politicians. Period. Most are power hungry narcissists. Look at Pelosi during this tried to sneak in unrelated crap into a bill about this unprecedented pandemic. These people are mostly s**t heads.
 
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Volsdeep4 said:
I didn’t say anything about caring for people’s family. I care for my elder mother. I still think you can’t shut down the economy and revoke rights for a mere 1.3-2 percent mortality rate. This is long picture here. All this money the government is pulling out of the “budget” is not good for our grandchildren. Someone has to pay for this.
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I agree about the economy. You do understand that if we have a million cases that that mere 1.3 % will be 130,000 deaths, right?
 
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You guys that like Joe Rogan (not a huge fan myself, but I do like some of his interviews, so I do check them out) should watch the one from past night on YouTube "Joe Rogan ponders long term effects of coronavirus lockdown"

Sorry...do not know how to link.
 
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utvols88 said:
I hope mandated measures are never used again. But I dont trust politicians. Period. Most are power hungry narcissists. Look at Pelosi during this tried to sneak in unrelated crap into a bill about this unprecedented pandemic. These people are mostly s**t heads.
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I feel exactly the same way...It amazes me that people are just like "whatever, no big deal"..

We all need to say the government very loudly and clearly...and f'n united for once..."This crap is only temporary, so don't get used to it".
 
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utvols88 said:
I hope mandated measures are never used again. But I dont trust politicians. Period. Most are power hungry narcissists. Look at Pelosi during this tried to sneak in unrelated crap into a bill about this unprecedented pandemic. These people are mostly s**t heads.
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Heard a guy say something yesterday that is a proven fundamental truth taught us by history over and over and over again..

"Totalitarian ideas thrive when people are scared"
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Heard a guy say something yesterday that is a proven fundamental truth taught us by history over and over and over again..

"Totalitarian ideas thrive when people are scared"
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With 2 trillion already in the pipeline, there's talk of yet another 2 trillion "stimulus" coming and that's BEFORE congress packs it with pork. All this will be through the US govt/Fed Reserve. This is extremely worrisome.

I'm reminded of this phrase commonly attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild...Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. Whether he said it or not, there's a great deal of truth in these words. Nope, not liking this at all. I'm not sure we'll recognize this country once the dust settles on this pandemic.

A great piece on this pending disaster. ...

The stimulus is the largest step toward a centrally planned economy that America has ever taken.
 
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One of the pharmacy techs at our local Walmart tested positive yesterday as did an employee at Mt. Juliet City Hall. And 5 of the twenty five Gallatin Nursing Home patients who were transferred to our local hospital who initially tested negative in Gallatin before being moved are now showing signs and being re-tested. The crap is everywhere!
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
If my lungs were not so scarred up, then I wouldn't be near as concerned for myself as far as mortality goes. I just figure like you, that since everybody has to get groceries and supplies, that eventually herding literally EVERYBODY through the same limited corridors will be how this infection spreads.

I really wish I could go somewhere isolated for few months and chill...but I can't...I have obligations to fulfill.
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I figure between smoking in my youth, breathing in Crystalline Silica for almost a decade and removing a ton of asbestos before realizing how many products it was actually in...
Covid19 would probably kill me in an unprecedented amount of time. Or abandon ship due to finding zero healthy lung tissue/cells to cling to.

Have my regular Dr appointment today. Anyone speaks to me, I'm hitting them with the clipboard and bailing👀
 
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drvenner said:
I agree about the economy. You do understand that if we have a million cases that that mere 1.3 % will be 130,000 deaths, right?
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You've got a decimal too far to the right in that scenario.

Still, I'm pretty mortified we're hypothetically trading millions of lives for the economy's hypothetical well-being.

If over a million people die (1.4 to 4.7 in SS's scenario) of a virus in a matter of weeks and tens of millions more end up hospitalized (of which more would die for lack or care), the economy's taking a hit one way or the other.

So, that means even if we sacrificed "a few million lives," we'd be sacrificing even more because we'd be out of beds, out of medical professionals, out of medicine, and out of life-saving equipment. Again, it's not just the deaths, a huge chunk will tie up hospital resources for one or more weeks per case.

This thing was going to hurt one way or the other. The only thing that could have helped is jumping on it from the start. We didn't. Here we are.
 
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