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I respect that and we can discuss any issue but when I am called racist for my beliefs for 3 years with zero to back the claim imma call bs to me that is stupid. Impeachment for 3 years was tremendously useless. It was in my opinion stupid for Nancy Pelosi to hold those AOI for 30 plus days thereby clogging up Congress at a time that could have been better suited for debating this novel virus coming from China.
The complete embarrassment over the nomination of Brett Cavanaugh was evil. There was an orchestrated effort to destroy a man of decent character for what reason? The effort of dragging some poor lady to testify who let's all be honest may very well have experienced something very bad but this lady was 100% sure this guy was at fault but could not find anyone to corroborate her story. This is evil. There are North of 600 k abortions performed each year in this country from some one who believes that life begins at conception that is evil.

I think and have stated that I have no problem with people like Zep who debate their position and try to keep it light. But the constant nastiness from the left and the media is why people on the right are so dismissive of the left. No offense but when you try and compare the rights opposition to the left although somewhat hyperbolic it pales in comparison to the constant nastiness from People like Joe Scarborough stating on TV that the president is willing to let the greatest generation die when he simply said I hope our country can get back to normal on Easter you lose me.
No disrespect as I appreciated your thoughtful reply. You may be surprised that we aren't that far apart.

You lead off with the “they called me racist because I support Donald Trump” but I’m sure you realize that saying “they’re evil because they support [insert democrat here]” is the opposite side of the exact same coin. Right?
 
You may be right. I am hearing about layoffs and firings more this week than any other so far in this mess.
I know of several places down here that have been trying to stay open as long as they could and reality is biting them in the butts.
 
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There use to be a lot of money in skilled nursing facilities....the government has been penny pinching them for years which has led to their decline...... it is why kindred healthcare sold all of their skilled nursing facilities.
I consulted for Vencor Pharmacy then it became Kindred.. eventually they merged/sold to PharMerica...we lost all the former Kindred nursing homes guess they contracted with CVS/Omnicare
 
Sure, if it works then I guarantee you will care. Some of you will even say he was right, knew what he was talking about, and he did a good thing by mentioning the drug that he probably just heard of an hour before.

Everyone should "care" if it works, absolutely.

No one should care if that made him right or wrong about it. But that won't stop "some of you" either way.

His opinion at the time is not gonna make the drug work or fail.

Partisan noted. Lol
 
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Aside from his life in academia, I don't know what makes him smarter or more equipped. He isn't a blowhard, promoter. He's got a better family persona (hope it is true). But that's about it. Trump lies and many lose their minds. Obama lies about shovel ready or keep your doctor and many are like "lol, whatevs". Billions of dollars wasted on lies is where I draw the line. And both of them have wasted billions on their lies.
Yeah I was wondering how Trump was going to pass Obama on the worst ever president list. The 2 trillion dollar stimulus did it for me. If he starts using the defense clause to seize control of companies that would shove him even further out in front.

Its remarkable what we have let the last three do.

Bush started multiple wars based on lies, and gave us the Patriot Act.
Obama spied and killed US citizens without court orders, and gave us ACA. As well continuing both of the problems started by Bush.
Trump comes along and signs the dumbest thing I have seen into effect, with a probable inflation coming to double down on the economic crash we will see. Plus the continued stuff from Obama and Bush.

This is why I tell everyone to vote for people you actually want. Not just those that could win, or are least bad, or on the continuum better than the other guy. Just vote for people you actually want. At least then there is a chance of change.
 
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Sure. If Trump were a Democrat, which he has been most of his life, I would be just as critical. If Kasich had been the Republican nominee in 2016, I would have probably voted from him over HRC, but there is no way I could vote for Trump. He is dangerous and not competent for this job and I really think any rational person who takes off their partisan glasses can see that.
I don’t consider him dangerous at all..... in fact his actual moves have been well thought out ..... Kasich would have been a horrible leader.
 
Luther you consider anything right of the hammer and sickle to be far right.
I consider the two of us to be an equal distance from the median (but obviously on opposite sides).
So place me where you think I belong, and realize you occupy the same position on the other side.
You guys realize we're talking continuums.
 
Yeah I was wondering how Trump was going to pass Obama on the worst ever president list. The 2 trillion dollar stimulus did it for me. If he starts using the defense clause to seize control of companies that would shove him even further out in front.

Its remarkable what we have let the last three do.

Bush started multiple wars based on lies, and gave us the Patriot Act.
Obama spied and killed US citizens without court orders, and gave us ACA. As well continuing both of the problems started by Bush.
Trump comes along and signs the dumbest thing I have seen into effect, with a probable inflation coming to double down on the economic crash we will see. Plus the continued stuff from Obama and Bush.

This is why I tell everyone to vote for people you actually want. Not just those that could win, or are least bad, or on the continuum better than the other guy. Just vote for people you actually want. At least then there is a chance of change.

Naturally, I agree 100%. But this is the stuff I want to discuss. The parsing every word and lie coming from the dude's mouth and how horrible in every conceivable way is like middle school clique drama. It's tiring. We haven't had a president worth a plug nickel in decades.
 
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Sure, if it works then I guarantee you will care. Some of you will even say he was right, knew what he was talking about, and he did a good thing by mentioning the drug that he probably just heard of an hour before.

What is the downside if the drug works for some? EFF Trump’s inflated ego or people who want to pat back him on the back. At this point, it is about patient care & hopefully saving lives.
 
I consider the two of us to be an equal distance from the median (but obviously on opposite sides).
So place me where you think I belong, and realize you occupy the same position on the other side.
You guys realize we're talking continuums.

No, “we” aren’t talking continuums. You are. Most of us align with individual freedom, you, however, are a collectivist, capitulating to the will of the state.

Most of us are nothing like you, personally or politically.
 
My tracking of actual daily new COVID-19 cases in U.S. and projections.
3/1 = 7 3/5 = 63
3/10 = 290 3/15 = 737
3/20 = 5,594 3/25 = 13,335
3/26 = 17,244 (16,650 median predicted)
3/27 = 18691 (19,625 median)
3/28 = 19452 (23,250 median)
3/29 = 19913 (24,450 median)
3/30 = 20353 (25,000 median)

Coronavirus Update (Live): 805,377 Cases and 39,469 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

Predicted New Case Ranges Today

3/31 21,900 - 26,800 (my predicted daily median is lower than yesterday's for the first time)
4/1 23,000 - 28,100
4/2 25,300 - 30,900
4/3 26,800 - 32,800
4/4 28,600 - 35,000

Right now the transmission rate curve is bending downward at a more accelerated rate. The sooner we get the rate under 1, the better.

Testing data resource: The COVID Tracking Project

Will cross 1 million processed tests today, so we may be ahead of many countries on the testing front despite a slow start. Are there mild and untested cases out there? Of course. But they are less of an unknown and more of a constant now, and the actual transmission rate can be seen in confirmed cases.
 
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I consider the two of us to be an equal distance from the median (but obviously on opposite sides).
So place me where you think I belong, and realize you occupy the same position on the other side.
You guys realize we're talking continuums.
Lot of words to say, "I know you are, but what am I?".
 
Everyone should "care" if it works, absolutely.

No one should care if that made him right or wrong about it. But that won't stop "some of you" either way.

His opinion at the time is not gonna make the drug work or fail.

Partisan noted. Lol
I think most have said their peace that he shouldn't have talked about the drug. He shouldn't have downplayed the spread of the virus either.
 
Naturally, I agree 100%. But this is the stuff I want to discuss. The parsing every word and lie coming from the dude's mouth and how horrible in every conceivable way is like middle school clique drama. It's tiring. We haven't had a president worth a plug nickel in decades.
I don’t like the stimulus plan either but it’s not going to prevent from investing it in the stock market lol..... The stimulus plan I don’t like but I also understand this is something we can’t prepare for..... if the government uses this to restrict our freedom after this is finished.... I will be done with trump.
 
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