Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

#25,701
#25,701
rjd970 said:
I’m not arguing the basis of what you are saying. I’ve said all along the quarantine should be targeted and not blanket, if anything at all. Perhaps I mistook what was being said, but I was arguing the notion that somehow the church was being targeted. From all accounts, it just looks like this pastor was the only one stupid enough to hold his service in person. Most others I’ve seen have gone to a TV or live streaming model.
Click to expand...

Eh... There is nothing in the constitution that says that freedom of religion "shall not be infringed" "unless we're infringing a lot of other things as well; then the gov't can infringe that too."
 
#25,703
#25,703
05_never_again said:
No, but he arguably put the public (and definitely members of his own congregation) at risk by having the assembly. Hence, the right to assemble being subject to limits. Just like Antifa doesn't have the right to mass and shut down a busy intersection.

The difference between the pastor is that he is unintentionally or negligently putting people at risk, while Antifa is intentionally infringing on the rights of others, but the outcome is still the same.
Click to expand...

I understand the argument you're making in general but the boldened here pretty much kills this comparison.
 
#25,704
#25,704
05_never_again said:
So you believe that the government cannot restrict freedom of assembly in any way whatsoever?

Let me put this in a way you might appreciate more - Antifa goons could shut down I-75/40 right through downtown Knoxville, and police couldn't legally do anything about it?
Click to expand...

This is the analogy you're gonna go with?

Impeding the ability of people to move freely is not remotely comparable to a pastor holding a church service.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hog88 and Orange_Crush
#25,705
#25,705
05_never_again said:
So you believe that the government cannot restrict freedom of assembly in any way whatsoever?

Let me put this in a way you might appreciate more - Antifa goons could shut down I-75/40 right through downtown Knoxville, and police couldn't legally do anything about it?
Click to expand...

It goes back to harming others and holding an assembly in the middle of the interstate is harming others.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Pepe_Silvia
#25,706
#25,706
Time for me to take a break. USA around 368. Pray we can stay close to that number for the next 3 hours. If so, that would be 2 amazing days coming off the 525 from Saturday.
 
  • Like
Reactions: njvols
#25,708
#25,708
Pepe_Silvia said:
This is the analogy you're gonna go with?

Impeding the ability of people to move freely is not remotely comparable to a pastor holding a church service.
Click to expand...
Sure it is, if the pastor having a church service endangers public health.

What this ultimately boils down to (I think) is that you don't really think the church service really endangers anyone.
 
#25,709
#25,709
Texas Tech Prof. Would ‘Reconsider’ Atheism if Donald Trump Dies of Chinese Virus

Texas Tech University Professor Richard Wigmans told his colleagues in an email last week that he might “reconsider” his atheism if President Donald Trump died after contracting the Wuhan coronavirus.

wigmans-640x480.png


According to a report by Campus Reform, Texas Tech Professor Richard Wigmans has come under fire this week for an email he sent to faculty members in which he suggested that he would reconsider his lack of faith in God if President Trump contracted the Wuhan coronavirus and died.

Wigmans, who focuses his researches particle physics, astrophysics, and cosmology, is referred to on his faculty profile as “the world’s foremost expert on calorimetry” for particle physics experiments. Calorimetry refers to the measurement of the amount of heat that is released or absorbed during a chemical reaction.

“I am personally an atheist, but if #45 would die as a result of this virus, I might reconsider,” Wigmans wrote in the email.

In a short comment to Campus Reform, Wigmans claimed that his email is being misinterpreted. “This is a statement about myself, not about someone else…I have distributed some emails to my colleagues in which I provide a scientist’s perspective on the available COVID-19 data, and use the observed trends to make some predictions.”

When asked directly if he hoped that President Trump would die from the virus, Wigmans blurred the line further. “I have not expressed such a wish,” he said.

Skyler Wachsmann, chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at Texas Tech, condemned Wigmans for his distasteful remark. “Implying that the President would enjoy for supporters of political opponents and for the elderly to suffer from this virus is disgusting, as is his comment expressing hope that President Trump would die from the Coronavirus,” Wachsmann said.

Texas Tech Prof. Would 'Reconsider' Atheism if Donald Trump Dies of Chinese Virus
 
#25,711
#25,711
05_never_again said:
Sure it is, if the pastor having a church service endangers public health.

What this ultimately boils down to (I think) is that you don't really think the church service really endangers anyone.
Click to expand...

It didn't. if anyone placed others in danger it was the attendees.
 
#25,713
#25,713
05_never_again said:
Right. So like I was saying earlier, you can pretty easily argue the holding church service harms others, and by others I don't mean just the people who were in the church.
Click to expand...

Again, the only people endangering others were the attendees. Roll the paddy wagons.
 
#25,715
#25,715
hog88 said:
Again, the only people endangering others were the attendees. Roll the paddy wagons.
Click to expand...
...and the pastor who encouraged them to show up, who was an attendee himself.

So you did just admit that the attendees at the service did endanger others. Important first step.
 
#25,716
#25,716
05_never_again said:
Right. So like I was saying earlier, you can pretty easily argue the holding church service harms others, and by others I don't mean just the people who were in the church.
Click to expand...

Everybody at this point is aware of Covid-19. You accept the risk of contracting the virus every time you leave the house and venture into the public. Every individual has the responsibility to accept or decline that risk.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hog88
#25,718
#25,718
Pepe_Silvia said:
Everybody at this point is aware of Covid-19. You accept the risk of contracting the virus every time you leave the house and venture into the public. Every individual has the responsibility to accept or decline that risk.
Click to expand...
You mitigate it, not accept or decline it. Everyone, by virtue of being alive, accepts it.
 
#25,719
#25,719
05_never_again said:
Everybody who exists is currently assuming some sort of risk for catching the virus (unless you're going to sit in your house and starve to death because nobody will bring you food) - it can only be mitigated.
Click to expand...

You have the option of staying in the house and having all necessary items delivered.
 
#25,720
#25,720
Twitter Forces Laura Ingraham to Delete Post on Chloroquine Helping Coronavirus Patients

Twitter has forced Fox News host Laura Ingraham to take down a tweet reporting on news that the malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine has been used to successfully treat sufferers of the Chinese virus in New York City hospitals.

In a now-deleted tweet, the Fox host reported that “Lenox Hill in New York among many hospitals using Hydroxychloroquine with promising results. One patient was described as “Lazarus” who was seriously ill from COVID-19, already released. #IngrahamAngle”

Twitter told left-wing reporters that Ingraham had been locked out of her account and forced to delete the tweet before regaining access. Twitter cited its new rules around “misleading information around COVID-19,” even though it appears that Chinese propagandists on the platform are being given a pass on virus-related misinformation.
 
#25,724
#25,724
Twitter Removes Jair Bolsonaro’s Tweets About Chinese Virus

Twitter took down two tweets from Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, citing its policy against misinformation related to the Chinese coronavirus, despite refusing to take down misinformation from Chinese officials about the virus last week.

The deleted videos consist of videos of Bolsonaro discussing the Chinese virus with Brazilian citizens, emphasizing the need to balance concern about the pandemic with economic reality.

According to Yahoo:
 
#25,725
#25,725
RockyTop85 said:
I think my favorite part about this thread is reading people complaining about our media bullying Trump at his press conferences and then seeing the same people say they don’t trust any info from China.

My least favorite thing about this thread is that I’ll never be able to top @luthervol for making that point and having it go over everyone’s heads.
Click to expand...
Thanks.
The whole thing was frustratingly humorous.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement

Back
Top