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WBO said:
Been going into the office every day. But we figure about 70% of our work will go unpaid, we're just trying to help our customers survive.

We've been designated as essential but 80% of office works from home, I've just got too much where I need access to historical files that are still on paper. Downtown Knoxville is about 10% of normal based on parking garages and people on the street. We've worked through our contingency plans and set our numbers where we will have to lay off staff, but the owners will stop paying ourelves at least 2 months before staff starts getting cut. We just can't cut staff and pay ourselves. Wouldn't be right. Hope everyone on here can hang in there.
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No one should be in downtown Knoxville since Knox county is in a safer at home order. Hope you guys survive this for all the work you've been doing.
 
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Devo182 said:
Yeah, I hate it for those people that it may not come until May. Also why I advise anyone in financial distress to be in close communication with their creditors/landlords. If everyone is proactive, we can minimize foreclosures, evictions, and repossessions.

Knowledge is power and more people need to be aware of how to best proceed. Don't hide it or put it off. These are unusual times and people not only understand this, but will work with you as well, because they don't want to lose revenue in the coming months either.
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Sucks because it didn't have to go this way. I just keep studying South Korea's response and it's aggravating how we basically went polar opposite on everything.

They had the medical necessities, they were so proactive on everything and most importantly, the people were all in.
Everyone took it seriously, followed protocol and they hardly missed a beat.
Instead, we were slow in response, massively underprepared and citizens getting online and encouraging others to be nonchalant.
Of course there was fear mongering and no indication of any massive impact on population or anything along those lines.

But because of the infection level on top of the regular flu and illnesses, it was always going to be too large of a burden on hospitals and medical supplies like the face masks - followed by the economic consequences.
But if we had been more proactive and folks not have wasted time focusing on mortality rates etc., but instead on the real threat it posed, the SK cheat code sure would've been nice.

It doesn't even have any impact on my reclusive azz. "Social distancing" is what I always called daily bliss. But hate it for for all those suffering financially and so on, especially those that did everything right.
 
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Anybody else notice that NY state's coronavirus deaths dropped from 114 yesterday to only 14 Today .. which Today is 1 day after NY started using the Malaria Drug + Z-Pak combo on Hospitalized patients. Be interesting to see what Cuomo says about it in his Thursday PC. Maybe some good news coming..

United States Coronavirus: 66,048 Cases and 944 Deaths - Worldometer
 
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This last few days bounce back of the stock market will be short lived. Expect it to keep going up after the bill passes for a bit ... And then it'll come tumbling down again in a week or so
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Thank you so much..that means a lot. We finally got back home to Kentucky a little while ago. Moms graveside service was this morning, and my emotions have hit me really hard today. I woke up before dawn, and it just really hit me that I can never talk to my mom again.
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I'm so sorry for your loss. Prayers for comfort.
 
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sutro said:
Are they right - of course. Does anything they are saying have relevance to the real world
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It has economic relevance

or any hope of being tested in real time beyond their armchair extrapolations - no. Everyone knows that the denominator is likely much larger than recognized, as test-proven cases are only a small fraction of total cases (though I strongly doubt that their extrapolations have any relation to reality). Add to that the fact that we have barely done any testing (a couple hundred thousand in a nation of 330+M). We have absolutely no idea. Add to that that the tests are proving to be only about 70% sensitive, and even among people with proven disease, can be positive one day, negative the next, and then positive again the following day.
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Yellow, blue, and orange contradict bold.
That allows an enterprising tenure-track professor to get in a contrarian view article to the WSJ and likely a journal article. The added benefit is that they are guaranteed to be proved right with post-hoc antibody testing in a year or two.
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So they will be right, just not soon enough?
The risk is that this is a specious argument, being delivered directly to a group of people (WSJ readers) who have a vested interest in believing it to be true.
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Starting to smell politics.
The time to have argued about disease prevalence/fatality rate was with a massive testing campaign involving every traveler with an origin in China back in January. We were actively steered away from that by the executive branch decisions. At this point, it doesn’t matter. The problem at hand is that we are in a far, far different situation than SK or Italy. The South Koreans had a well-circumscribed religious group to track down and a couple other clusters that were easily isolated after a large, well-organized testing campaign and lockdown. The Italians had an outbreak largely concentrated in one region.
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Bold: I’d like to know more about the protests of Wuhan citizens regarding burning of trash in that area or surrounding areas. Could this, and a higher baseline of air pollution in general have made them more likely to present with more severe symptoms? The age of the Italian population, and higher rates of smoking (similar to China) could help to explain the severity of the outbreak there.
pink: smell of politics intensifies
If you look at the Johns Hopkins website, by the size of the circles, you can pick out major international arrival airports, regional airports, and you are starting to see the interstate highway network to some degree in more rural areas. The cat is so far out of the bag that it has wandered off and is somewhere in the next county by now. Add to that the delayed, disorganized and ineffectual federal response that we’ve seen, and continue to see, and you have a recipe for something that won’t be over soon.

The argument that we should consider reducing current infection control measures at this point due to economic or mental health or inconvenience reasons or because nobody has any idea of the true fatality rate is flatly dangerous at this point. But, it ties in nicely with current messaging out of the White House.
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Green: Evidence? I think it’s pretty reasonable to think we can halt many things for a couple of weeks to get our bearings, and establish measures to protect groups most effected by the virus. Unfortunately, the best statistics come from those who have passed from the virus, and they appear to have reasonably identifiable characteristics. I also don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that many people could go back to work soon.

Yellow: Politics, obviously.

Edit: obligatory apology for whatever just in case
 
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