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Do you think that's how people are looking at it? I mean, more people would be upset if that's how they chose to view it. I suppose if one could convince those who think they are being responsible, that they actually have a boot on their neck, maybe there would be an uprising. It might prove to be the most ill-conceived uprising in history, but I suppose it could happen.
I think hog should go door to door meeting and greeting people trying to start his uprising.
 
Do you think that's how people are looking at it? I mean, more people would be upset if that's how they chose to view it. I suppose if one could convince those who think they are being responsible, that they actually have a boot on their neck, maybe there would be an uprising. It might prove to be the most ill-conceived uprising in history, but I suppose it could happen.
Are ya'll still discussing a mandatory quarantine, where you're arrested for leaving your house?

And if a HUGE % of Americans left their house during a mandatory quarantine, how would that be ill conceived? What do you think the gov't should do then? Do they have enough law enforcement and jails to arrest and jail them? Call up military and make internment camps to jail them? Start shooting?

I'm curious how you see this as "ill-advised"? The citizenry banding together to exercise their constitutional rights in the face of an oppressive, militarized government?
 
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There will be no uprising, I see people in this tiny microcosm of a society that I thought were opposed to .gov overreach advocating for draconian .gov overreach.

After all of this is over people will line up at the polls and happily vote for these politicians that never missed a paycheck because "they kept us safe".

probably so... But us PF peeps will defend one of these incumbent turds over an alternative every day of the week.
 
There will be no uprising, I see people in this tiny microcosm of a society that I thought were opposed to .gov overreach advocating for draconian .gov overreach.
That is what has me a little worried right now.

I'm not liking what I'm hearing coming out of some of these people's mouths.

I'm really concerned that if they try forced vaccinations, these guys would be the first ones in line virtue signaling to everyone else about doing their patriotic duty.
 
How many of the recovered were hospitalized? How many of the currently infected are hospitalized? That needs to be relayed as well.
Mortality rate... focus on the mortality rate. If we can see it hovering around 1%, we will know how much we really need to be concerned.
 
Are ya'll still discussing a mandatory quarantine, where you're arrested for leaving your house?

And if a HUGE % of Americans left their house during a mandatory quarantine, how would that be ill conceived? What do you think the gov't should do then? Do they have enough law enforcement and jails to arrest and jail them? Call up military and make internment camps to jail them? Start shooting?

I'm curious how you see this as "ill-advised"? The citizenry banding together to exercise their constitutional rights in the face of an oppressive, militarized government?

Sure man, I might look at it differently, if it wasn't in the greater interest of the population. And if it were to become apparent that it wasn't in that interest, I would change my attitude.

If you want to get worked up about it enough to defy a quarantine, you do you.
 
As of now, 4% mortality rate world wide. In the US, we’re holding at less than 1.5%.

Those numbers are not worth reporting because they're worthless. Can you state with any certainty how many people are really infected? If the answer is no then you don't have the necessary information in order to give us a mortality rate
 
Those numbers are not worth reporting because they're worthless. Can you state with any certainty how many people are really infected? If the answer is no then you don't have the necessary information in order to give us a mortality rate

Daily deaths growth rate factor is right at 1. Which is great.
 
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Mortality rate... focus on the mortality rate. If we can see it hovering around 1%, we will know how much we really need to be concerned.
That’s a huge part, but hospitalization is also a large part of the equation. If most people that get this don’t have to be hospitalized, then it’s clear the reaction is overblown.
 
The minuscule sum of human knowledge pretty much puts us all in that boat, doesn't it?

On the bright side, my wife didn't have to yell at me this morning over my ability to take 10 minutes to choose the best buy on paper towels and toilet paper, because there was only one brand of each in the store.
Mine would have anyway.
 
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Sure man, I might look at it differently, if it wasn't in the greater interest of the population. And if it were to become apparent that it wasn't in that interest, I would change my attitude.

If you want to get worked up about it enough to defy a quarantine, you do you.
I'm not worked up in the least. I'm asking you questions to get an idea of what you meant by a couple of your statements. You seemed to poo-poo the comparison between "mandatory quarantine" and "false arrest/imprisonment/whatever". You then said that a mass uprising against that would be "the most ill-conceived uprising in history".

I'm asking questions to try to understand your stance. Is it that mandatory quarantine isn't the same as govt-enforced false arrest, and yet defying it would be inadvisable due to the massive response by the gov't that enacted the "quarantine"?
 
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Those numbers are not worth reporting because they're worthless. Can you state with any certainty how many people are really infected? If the answer is no then you don't have the necessary information in order to give us a mortality rate

For the near-term, you can somewhat use them. I understand what you are saying. But if you take current confirmed cases (ignoring undiagnosed) and project those forward using this mortality rate (or maybe more appropriately .8%) then you can get a decent idea of hospital loads. Problem is their are symptomatic cases right now being denied tests so that makes that projection riskier.

Here is one thing we do know - the Princess Diamond was a case study where everyone was tested. Mortality rates when corrected for age distribution of cruise ship vs America turns out to be about 0.8% based on some rough math I did. So the 1% number as long as hospitals aren’t overloaded might not be so bad - the concerning thing is that would be total infections (not just symptomatic and confirmed).
 
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Sure man, I might look at it differently, if it wasn't in the greater interest of the population. And if it were to become apparent that it wasn't in that interest, I would change my attitude.

If you want to get worked up about it enough to defy a quarantine, you do you.
And for the record, liberty is in the greater interest of the population. And liberty allows people to make up their own mind. If you are afraid of it, stay in and self-quaratine. You won't come into contact with anyone that chose to exercise their rights outside of their home. And you also wouldn't have given the gov't its overreach.
 
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You sure that's right? US numbers when I run them seem way lower.

Was perusing the news channels. There’s slight disparities in numbers, but they are very close from network to network. WW = (Deaths/Total cases) 15,374/351,731= .043.
US - 462/38739 = .012

CNN and FOX total numbers very close, yielding about the same percentages.
 
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