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chargervol said:
I have no idea what I have, been running a fever near 104 for 2 days, can't stop coughing and don't feel like moving. And the worst part, it's kicked my pancreas into high gear😕

This is following my son doing the same for the last week but his was much more mild, slightly lethargic, only around 100° temp but more coughing. Honestly thought it was his allergies.

Might be a severe cold or the regular flu, for all I know. But if it is the other, stats can gtfo.. this absolutely sucks.
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Get your a$$ to a doctor ASAP. Your damn brain will scramble at 104 for any length of time. Hope it's not the virus.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Some people that have died are not immune compromised. A 34 year old guy from Cali that caught it while in Florida, was not immune compromised. He had childhood asthma, but healthy other than that. This is worse than the flu. Stop comparing it to the flu.
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So, 328 million people in this country and you use 1 person to make a point.
 
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Catbone said:
Idk maybe we should just kill off senior citizens. We could save a lot of time and money shipping every one in the usa 60 and older to one big island. Maybe send them to Alabama and wall em all off. Hunger games style

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I'm in that 60+ group and I take offense to this. Sending us to Alabama is a bit harsh.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Not just hoarding. This is glimpse of our society when morality and laws fail.

Just take everything and screw everyone else!
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Terrible...I can only hope they are poor af and have a sick elderly needing the medicine asap. Probably not...but I try to be optimistic about mankind.

Reminds me of an ethics hypothetical - if your (spouse/parent/child/loved one) was dying from a rare disease that is only curable by an egregiously expensive medicine costing tens of thousands of dollars and this person will die within days if they do not get it. The local pharmacy has some in stock, but you can come nowhere close to affording it and insurance won't cover it. Do you rob the pharmacy or no?
 
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millst987 said:
For the peeps calling this a common flu:

Shared from Dr. Mayur Patel (a very credible Pulmonologist I have worked with personally). People please don’t take this lightly

Understanding COVID-19.....simply A complex disease

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... i.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
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This post is making the rounds on FB. I've seen several people share it now.
 
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Dallas started drive thru testing this morning at American Airlines Center. You had to be at least 65 and have a temperature of 99.7 or more. We'll see where it goes from here.
 
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drvenner said:
I sincerely hope none of your family catch it. You need to get woke, because you're blowing this off and it's people like you who are going to make it worse for everybody.
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I am following doing everything as instructed so not blowing it off. However, if we don’t have some easing by April 1 where business can start MOVING toward normalcy if the numbers warrant it, I will wonder what the heck a little more. I’m not convinced a 2-4 month protracted halt of our economy is going to make sense if we are talking about a 1 percent mortality rate.
 
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Batman1948 said:
Dallas started drive thru testing this morning at American Airlines Center. You had to be at least 65 and have a temperature of 99.7 or more. We'll see where it goes from here.
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That was a fun briefing. Catch the shade cast at the Feds?
 
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JacketVol said:
I am following doing everything as instructed so not blowing it off. However, if we don’t have some easing by April 1 where business can start MOVING toward normalcy if the numbers warrant it, I will wonder what the heck a little more. I’m not convinced a 2-4 month protracted halt of our economy is going to make sense if we are talking about a 1 percent mortality rate.
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Just my guess, I think this 15-day tester window will end and they will renew equal, or tougher, policies. After the 2nd 15-day period we will tell businesses and employees to go back, but take great precaution to spread folks out. More shifts, restricted capacity allowed, etc. All large gatherings still not allowed.

I think they will focus on getting people back to work within ~1 month, but large gatherings, festivals, sporting events could be restricted many more months. Bonnaroo has already been pushed back 3 months from June to September. That is probably about the earliest huge gatherings will be allowed back, maybe a bit sooner.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Some people that have died are not immune compromised. A 34 year old guy from Cali that caught it while in Florida, was not immune compromised. He had childhood asthma, but healthy other than that. This is worse than the flu. Stop comparing it to the flu.
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A. It's never been said that no one under 65 had, or would, died. Just that the younger you are the much less likely it is.
B. He had that history of asthma and I believe he was a testicular cancer survivor as well, as recent as 2016 iirc.

And no it's not the flu. The flu kills Regardless of demographic all the time...
 
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Catbone said:
I don't see many people panicked, just a lot of people not necessarily taking it very seriously
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Uh.. There's both. Have you run out of tp yet? Lol.

There's two ends of this spectrum.... The party goers saying Corona shmarona... Put a lime in it and let's go!

And the people wearing shopping bags as PPE with two grocery carts of hand sanitizer and tp...

There's a happy medium....
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't think they are good numbers nor do I think they are bad numbers. I don't think numbers tell us much at all. Too many unresolved cases.
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Kinda goes both ways.

On the one hand, there's unresolved and undiagnosed patients that will eventually test positive and will either recover or not...

Then there's people that probably have it, had it, never got diagnosed and recovered just fine.

The math nerds will have figure the +\- out... But none of these numbers are gonna ever be all inclusive... And most won't have context about things that probably do matter.
 
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chargervol said:
Here's the simplest fact. The number of cases that we're discussing is with all of the extreme measures that have been put in place. If we were ignoring it like the flu, the numbers would be much higher and that means the serious cases would be higher also.

We're still in regular flu season also. We simply do not have the medical infrastructure to not "flatten the curve".
I get it, the media likes to fear monger, that's true. But that doesn't change basic math. In the US, 1 in 13 had/have asthma not counting other respiratory illnesses. There would be too many requiring some form of treatment to simply ignore it.
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Yep
 
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Devo182 said:
Just my guess, I think this 15-day tester window will end and they will renew equal, or tougher, policies. After the 2nd 15-day period we will tell businesses and employees to go back, but take great precaution to spread folks out. More shifts, restricted capacity allowed, etc. All large gatherings still not allowed.

I think they will focus on getting people back to work within ~1 month, but large gatherings, festivals, sporting events could be restricted many more months. Bonnaroo has already been pushed back 3 months from June to September. That is probably about the earliest huge gatherings will be allowed back, maybe a bit sooner.
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I agree. I was thinking mid April with businesses. It will be 81 here next week, so I hope the warm weather is coming. But it will probably be longer for mass gatherings.
 
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