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#118,178
#118,178
Italy isn’t comparable.

United States is about 33 times bigger than Italy.
Italy is approximately 301,340 sq km, while United States is approximately 9,833,517 sq km. Meanwhile, the population of Italy is ~62.1 million people (264.5 million more people live in United States).
 
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jakez4ut said:
Incident rates are incident rates, regardless of the difference in the total numbers..

But to your point....It is something that should be acknowledged when considering measures taken, or to take...that's where the total numbers would then matter... Cause it is/was theoretically easier for SK to roll out their plan due to those differences.
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It’s simple. Korea had lots of tests and was prepared. They tested 150k people in a matter of days around the community spread areas, followed up on who they had contact with and tested them. Quarantined those people and isolated the virus.

It’s not comparable to other countries.
 
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chargervol said:
Man, the specialized diet that I have.., everyone taking all the meat is making life rough.

I can't eat all the processed stuff or cans of beef stew, etc.. Gonna have to order whey protein or something to compensate for all these folks hoarding.😕
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Not just hoarding. This is glimpse of our society when morality and laws fail.

Just take everything and screw everyone else!
 
#118,187
#118,187
Idk maybe we should just kill off senior citizens. We could save a lot of time and money shipping every one in the usa 60 and older to one big island. Maybe send them to Alabama and wall em all off. Hunger games style

/S
 
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chargervol said:
Thanks.
Thought about it but from my understanding, would need congressional approval to get an appointment right now.

No way I'm attempting the hospital unless it involves a stretcher and me being unconscious😂
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Call in man. Don’t need congressional approval. Just tell them your symptoms they will let you know what to do from there.
 
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millst987 said:
For the peeps calling this a common flu:

Shared from Dr. Mayur Patel (a very credible Pulmonologist I have worked with personally). People please don’t take this lightly

Understanding COVID-19.....simply A complex disease

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... i.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
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Funny because virologist have stated that this virus mutates slowly. There are currently only two strains of this virus.

On top of that, this virus has been in animals for numerous years with vets treating it. I find it funny that those so called people who said they “track” it so closely didn’t notice it was starting to mutate.

I am not trying to be a conspiracy theorist, however, I believe that this virus came from a lab. There is no way that an animal to human / human to human jump happened in just 2 weeks.

Edit: Just for reference, the H1N1 flu took about 1 year to jump from human to human and had been around in swine populations for approximately 9 years before it made the jump from swine to human.
 
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Here's the simplest fact. The number of cases that we're discussing is with all of the extreme measures that have been put in place. If we were ignoring it like the flu, the numbers would be much higher and that means the serious cases would be higher also.

We're still in regular flu season also. We simply do not have the medical infrastructure to not "flatten the curve".
I get it, the media likes to fear monger, that's true. But that doesn't change basic math. In the US, 1 in 13 had/have asthma not counting other respiratory illnesses. There would be too many requiring some form of treatment to simply ignore it.
 
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