Coronavirus (No politics)

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#884
burntorangeVOLffle said:
If we don’t get in front of it and the hospitals get swamped the death rate will be higher. That is what this is all about.

Yes, the vast majority who get it will not die. However the ones that will need to be hospitalized can quickly out pace the number of beds available.

See post above about ventilators in NY. That is the real concern.
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It is the same during flu season. The difference is we don’t have a media driven freak out during flu season.
 
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#886
Jxn Vol said:
It is the same during flu season. The difference is we don’t have a media driven freak out during flu season.
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It is not the same as the flu. Resources aren’t overwhelmed with the seasonal flu.

LOOK AT ITALY!!

That is not a a third world country. They have more beds per patient then the US. They are being deciding if the 45 year old or the 65 year old gets a ventilator right now because they did not get in front on it.

Quit buying into the “media freak out” narrative.
 
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#887
burntorangeVOLffle said:
It is not the same as the flu. Resources aren’t overwhelmed with the seasonal flu.

LOOK AT ITALY!!

That is not a a third world country. They have more beds per patient then the US. They are being deciding if the 45 year old or the 65 year old gets a ventilator right now because they did not get in front on it.

Quit buying into the “media freak out” narrative.
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More beds per patient doesn't mean much if your health system operates like our VA here... Which theirs does.
 
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ButchPlz said:
More beds per patient doesn't mean much if your health system operates like our VA here... Which theirs does.
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Example please?

Italy’s healthcare system ranks among the best in the world by World Health Organization.
 
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#894
Orange_Vol1321 said:
It's following this prediction graph pretty closely. So if it keeps up it will kill 1,200,000 by February 21st. The true numbers are skewed in the first place. They are a lot higher coming from a communist government like China. They're boarding up entrances to high rise apartment buildings and locking citizens in.

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WHAT HAPPEND?????? It appears the total deaths predicted just has not happened-shame on those that put this type of crap out!!!!!
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Example please?

Italy’s healthcare system ranks among the best in the world by World Health Organization.
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Do you much about the WHO? Spend five minutes worth of research, you'll find it is a politico organization, "leadership" does little but steal from the organization-another U.N. monstrosity.
 
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#896
burntorangeVOLffle said:
Example please?

Italy’s healthcare system ranks among the best in the world by World Health Organization.
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Again, I've already mentioned my distaste for the WHO. They repeatedly let China off the hook (their leadership said China did a great job with this! Really?) and they've done an incredibly poor job of relaying information to national governments and assisting in the procurement of supplies- the two things they exist for.

Now, the entire concentration of cases in Italy are almost all in the northern region, where the age averages higher. That's a factor. Next, you can't blame a shortage of ventilators purely on being overwhelmed- other countries, even those with socialized medicine (France, Germany, Japan) aren't seeing the level of chaos that Italy has (why don't you point at those?). Not being prepared for epidemics, not having the capacity to deal with it, not having enough staff on hand, that sounds like the VA to me. Hence my example.

You point to Italy as an example of what will apparently inevitably happen in the US, but ignore everywhere else where things are in relative control.
 
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#900
Our governor in Ohio just ordered all restaurants and bars to close. Can still order pick up or delivery no sit down customers.
 
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