2020 Presidential Race

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zeppelin128 said:
Hopefully it isn't too political. Apparently they are doing a quiz game show thing with Stewart and Pete about Star Trek knowledge. Not surprisingly, Pete is a huge Star Trek nerd.
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Some like Colbert and Noah are nauseating. Kimmel and Fallon aren’t quite as bad.
 
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I used to like Kimmel before he started focusing more on politics and less on being funny. Can't stand Colbert. His show is a liberal propaganda machine. Same is true of Seth Meyers from what little I've seen. Fallon is okay, and so is James Corden IMO.
 
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MontyPython said:
We need to:

Rejoin the world economy with treaties.
Treat our allies like allies.
Don't cozy up to autocrats.
Address climate change.
Ensure health care continues.
Require mandatory background checks on guns.
Allow reasonable immigration.
Don't insult everyone who didn't vote for you.
Unite instead of divide.

Trump fails on every count. If you don't recognize these facts, you're part of the problem.
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@LouderVol...

Treaties

Trump pulled out of the Paris accord, the TPP, and the Iranian agreement. Doing so is inexcusable and short sighted. We need to work with the rest of the world to address climate change. By not entering the TPP, we created a vacuum for China to step in and be the world leader instead of us. And how has Iran worked out? Obviously we should be working with them to prevent them from getting nuke weapons. At this rate they're going to mirror what happened with North Korea.

Autocrats

Donald Trump is beholden to Putin. I don't give a rat's a** what anybody else tries to say to defend him, it's painfully obvious obvious that there is something up here. I don't know what it is, I don't know what Russia is holding over Trump, but they're definitely holding something over him. Trump's subservience to Russia is an absolute disgrace.

Sadly, Putin is not the only autocrat in the world that Trump seems to love. It's just part and parcel with him to love people with a huge amount of power. There are many autocrats that he's embraced to this effect.

Allies

Trump seems to relish in being the spoiler. Instead of embracing our longtime allies like Germany, France and England, he loves to pepper them with insults and create discord when it comes to NATO. As you should be aware, he has said previously that NATO should be abolished. This runs counter to anybody who knows anything about the defense of Europe against our Communist foes.

Climate change

See treaties above.

Health Care

Donald Trump has repeatedly stated, and in fact ran a campaign, on abolishing Obama care. You're claiming that we still have health care only means that the system beat Trump's efforts to destroy it. We can actually think the late senator McCain for saving it.

Which raises another point. Donald Trump is not a builder he's a destroyer. He's not a proactive leader, he's a reactive sniper. He has no forward vision whatsoever. He's only reactive. He chooses to tear down and target pretty much everything that Obama did that in fact was largely positive for country.

Guns

As you should know, there's a loophole currently in the federal gun rules that allows 22% of guns purchased to avoid a background check. This loophole needs to be eliminated, and Trump has done nothing to do so.

Background Check Loophole

Immigration

I don't know how you could possibly defend Donald Trump on any immigration policies, as he openly ran on an anti immigrant platform. Not just illegal but also legal. Stephen Miller his primary assistant on this subject is a xenophobic racist. That's just simply fact.

It is also true that Trump has tried to reduce legal immigration by limiting the numbers of people who can enter this country by approximately 75%. Fortunately his efforts to do this were recently defeated in court at least for now. Regardless, legal immigration has declined under Trump. As the son of an immigrant, I despise Trump's animus towards alien people. Yet, they seem to be the only ones dumb enough to marry him. The irony.

Legal Immigration Has Declined Under Trump

Insulting People

This goes without saying. Donald Trump doesn't behave presidentially. He behaves like a 5th grader pretty much most of the time. Name calling by him is absolutely outrageous. The man has no class whatsoever. He has without a doubt degraded the office of the presidency.

Amazingly, he still calls for his political opponents to be jailed. We do not live in a Banana Republic. Ironically, what... 5 of Trump's own campaign members are facing prison time? Telling. Trump is a corrupt mfer. It is painfully evident as well that Trump would like to be president for the rest of his life.

Unite, Don't Divide

Case you missed it, Trump declared during his inaugural speech that if you didn't vote for him f**** you. His outlook of doom and gloom was absolutely foretelling, and an insight into the dark recesses of this f*cktard's head.

Former president George W. Bush, in fact, at the conclusion of Trump's inaugural address leaned over to Obama and said "That was some crazy sh*t."

W was right.

That crazy sh*t still currently occupies the White House.

Not for long.
 
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MontyPython said:
@LouderVol...

Treaties

Trump pulled out of the Paris accord, the TPP, and the Iranian agreement. Doing so is inexcusable and short sighted. We need to work with the rest of the world to address climate change. By not entering the TPP, we created a vacuum for China to step in and be the world leader instead of us. And how has Iran worked out? Obviously we should be working with them to prevent them from getting nuke weapons. At this rate they're going to mirror what happened with North Korea.

Autocrats

Donald Trump is beholden to Putin. I don't give a rat's a** what anybody else tries to say to defend him, it's painfully obvious obvious that there is something up here. I don't know what it is, I don't know what Russia is holding over Trump, but they're definitely holding something over him. Trump's subservience to Russia is an absolute disgrace.

Sadly, Putin is not the only autocrat in the world that Trump seems to love. It's just part and parcel with him to love people with a huge amount of power. There are many autocrats that he's embraced to this effect.

Allies

Trump seems to relish in being the spoiler. Instead of embracing our longtime allies like Germany, France and England, he loves to pepper them with insults and create discord when it comes to NATO. As you should be aware, he has said previously that NATO should be abolished. This runs counter to anybody who knows anything about the defense of Europe against our Communist foes.

Climate change

See treaties above.

Health Care

Donald Trump has repeatedly stated, and in fact ran a campaign, on abolishing Obama care. You're claiming that we still have health care only means that the system beat Trump's efforts to destroy it. We can actually think the late senator McCain for saving it.

Which raises another point. Donald Trump is not a builder he's a destroyer. He's not a proactive leader, he's a reactive sniper. He has no forward vision whatsoever. He's only reactive. He chooses to tear down and target pretty much everything that Obama did that in fact was largely positive for country.

Guns

As you should know, there's a loophole currently in the federal gun rules that allows 22% of guns purchased to avoid a background check. This loophole needs to be eliminated, and Trump has done nothing to do so.

Background Check Loophole

Immigration

I don't know how you could possibly defend Donald Trump on any immigration policies, as he openly ran on an anti immigrant platform. Not just illegal but also legal. Stephen Miller his primary assistant on this subject is a xenophobic racist. That's just simply fact.

It is also true that Trump has tried to reduce legal immigration by limiting the numbers of people who can enter this country by approximately 75%. Fortunately his efforts to do this were recently defeated in court at least for now. Regardless, legal immigration has declined under Trump.

Legal Immigration Has Declined Under Trump

Insulting People

This goes without saying. Donald Trump doesn't behave presidentially. He behaves like a 5th grader pretty much most of the time. Name calling by him is absolutely outrageous. The man has no class whatsoever. He has without a doubt degraded the office of the presidency.

Amazingly, he still calls for his political opponents to be jailed. We do not live in a Banana Republic. Ironically, what... 5 of Trump's own campaign members are facing prison time? Telling. Trump is a corrupt mfer. It is painfully evident as well that Trump would like to be president for the rest of his life.

Unite, Don't Divide

Case you missed it, Trump declared during his inaugural speech that if you didn't vote for him f**** you. His outlook of doom and gloom was absolutely foretelling, and an insight into the dark recesses of this f*cktard's head.

Former president George W. Bush, in fact, at the conclusion of Trump's inaugural address leaned over to Obama and said "That was some crazy sh*t."

W was right.

That crazy sh*t still currently occupies the White House.

Not for long.
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Oh the imaginary gun show loophole. I have never been to a gun show where I could buy a gun without a background check.
 
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JCP201 said:
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I know some of my husband's family had to leave their church because it became very obvious that they were being outcast due to not voting for Trump. This is a Church they had been doing good works for years, including going into the community, visiting homeless shelters, etc. It started when they became uncomfortable with the pastor posting (apparent now) Russian Bot info during the 2016, which they would show was not true. Possibly caused resentment, I don't know. There was a church meeting about them a few months ago, and they finally decided to leave. We invited them to our non-partisan church and they seem happy, but I know that stings since they thought those people were their friends, and that they were worshiping God, not Donald Trump.

I have some acquaintances I had to block on social media because I have to associate with them and want to keep the peace. Their racism (which I had no idea) has come out, which upset me. I'd rather be oblivious.
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Annnnnnnd you blame Mr Trump for your church's membership becoming a bunch of turds. Got it. I had no idea he could do that kind of thing. Imagine if we could harness that kind of power for good.
 
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MontyPython said:
@LouderVol...

Treaties

Trump pulled out of the Paris accord, the TPP, and the Iranian agreement. Doing so is inexcusable and short sighted. We need to work with the rest of the world to address climate change. By not entering the TPP, we created a vacuum for China to step in and be the world leader instead of us. And how has Iran worked out? Obviously we should be working with them to prevent them from getting nuke weapons. At this rate they're going to mirror what happened with North Korea.

Autocrats

Donald Trump is beholden to Putin. I don't give a rat's a** what anybody else tries to say to defend him, it's painfully obvious obvious that there is something up here. I don't know what it is, I don't know what Russia is holding over Trump, but they're definitely holding something over him. Trump's subservience to Russia is an absolute disgrace.

Sadly, Putin is not the only autocrat in the world that Trump seems to love. It's just part and parcel with him to love people with a huge amount of power. There are many autocrats that he's embraced to this effect.

Allies

Trump seems to relish in being the spoiler. Instead of embracing our longtime allies like Germany, France and England, he loves to pepper them with insults and create discord when it comes to NATO. As you should be aware, he has said previously that NATO should be abolished. This runs counter to anybody who knows anything about the defense of Europe against our Communist foes.

Climate change

See treaties above.

Health Care

Donald Trump has repeatedly stated, and in fact ran a campaign, on abolishing Obama care. You're claiming that we still have health care only means that the system beat Trump's efforts to destroy it. We can actually think the late senator McCain for saving it.

Which raises another point. Donald Trump is not a builder he's a destroyer. He's not a proactive leader, he's a reactive sniper. He has no forward vision whatsoever. He's only reactive. He chooses to tear down and target pretty much everything that Obama did that in fact was largely positive for country.

Guns

As you should know, there's a loophole currently in the federal gun rules that allows 22% of guns purchased to avoid a background check. This loophole needs to be eliminated, and Trump has done nothing to do so.

Background Check Loophole

Immigration

I don't know how you could possibly defend Donald Trump on any immigration policies, as he openly ran on an anti immigrant platform. Not just illegal but also legal. Stephen Miller his primary assistant on this subject is a xenophobic racist. That's just simply fact.

It is also true that Trump has tried to reduce legal immigration by limiting the numbers of people who can enter this country by approximately 75%. Fortunately his efforts to do this were recently defeated in court at least for now. Regardless, legal immigration has declined under Trump. As the son of an immigrant, I despise Trump's animus towards alien people. Yet, they seem to be the only ones dumb enough to marry him. The irony.

Legal Immigration Has Declined Under Trump

Insulting People

This goes without saying. Donald Trump doesn't behave presidentially. He behaves like a 5th grader pretty much most of the time. Name calling by him is absolutely outrageous. The man has no class whatsoever. He has without a doubt degraded the office of the presidency.

Amazingly, he still calls for his political opponents to be jailed. We do not live in a Banana Republic. Ironically, what... 5 of Trump's own campaign members are facing prison time? Telling. Trump is a corrupt mfer. It is painfully evident as well that Trump would like to be president for the rest of his life.

Unite, Don't Divide

Case you missed it, Trump declared during his inaugural speech that if you didn't vote for him f**** you. His outlook of doom and gloom was absolutely foretelling, and an insight into the dark recesses of this f*cktard's head.

Former president George W. Bush, in fact, at the conclusion of Trump's inaugural address leaned over to Obama and said "That was some crazy sh*t."

W was right.

That crazy sh*t still currently occupies the White House.

Not for long.
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LOL

You really believe this ****?
 
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MontyPython said:
Mostly because he's a corrupt ftard, but also because he's an arrogant, ignorant megalomaniac who craves power and money over everything else.
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So you hate the man for his personality, but can't come up with anything substantial (policy wise) over which to dislike him. Got it. How very deep you must be.
 
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