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I watched an interview today with a guy that was on one of the cruise ships that was put into isolation and he tested positive for the virus. He claimed he never felt sick, never had a fever and later tested negative so I doubt we'll ever know how many people will get this and never have any symptoms. I think this is going to end up being a big nothing burger for most people and the ones that get really sick or die already have something wrong and those are the people that need to worry.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Considering I’ve had real time briefings from the CDC I can promise you I’m not worried
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Good, I’m not worried either. The fed still bungled the tests. We barely started testing in the last few days and declared we’re already past containment. Great job
 
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hog88 said:
Isn’t the proper steps to not infect others the same for damn near every communicable virus?
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No I’m pretty sure you don’t treat ebola like the common cold.

There’s a big difference between ’24 hours no fever and you can go back to work’ for flu and ‘quarantine for 2-4 weeks’ for covid-19.
 
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allvol123 said:
Or because people dont feel sick, because they arent sick.
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I don’t know if you are trying to debate in good faith or not so I’m unsure if I should put in the effort to?

You can carry this for a long time without symptoms, testing people who aren’t sick is actually paramount to contain.

Also, look up the case in Harrison county, KY. Patient was presenting symptoms and the Hospital there told the CDC. CDC said he didn’t meet requirements to be tested. The hospital said F that, and quarantined him anyway. Eventually he did get tested days later and was positive. Great work by the hospital staff there.

In King county, WA the CDC declared the area an endemic and won’t be testing as much to prevent hospital staff from being exposed (because apparently the test increases exposure risk to staff). So they are treating patients with the assumption they have it, which is fine, but it doesn’t reflect as official stats.
 
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Burhead said:
The choice for our leaders is going to be letting this run its course and count the dead later or take aggressive actions like China and now Italy are taking to slow the spread. Either will have negative effects just the question of which one our government has the stomach and political will to endure.
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Option 3: let this run its course until the government can no longer endure, and then take aggressive actions entirely too late
 
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DynaLo said:
Not really. There’s nothing emotional about addressing the reality that personal accountability and responsibility appear to be sadly lacking in a large percentage of our country’s population. It’s a question designed to specifically address that issue.
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My point is just that it’s a binary argument. If you say “zero,” then the only way to ensure that would be to take that “personal accountability and responsibility” to the extreme and isolate yourself until the problem is solved. Anything other than that becomes a number between 1 and infinity which then becomes an emotional argument.

I’m in no way saying people should blow this off. Be responsible. But unfortunately the only way to truly decrease the risk to others is to have complete knowledge of the disease.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I don’t know if you are trying to debate in good faith or not so I’m unsure if I should put in the effort to?

You can carry this for a long time without symptoms, testing people who aren’t sick is actually paramount to contain.

Also, look up the case in Harrison county, KY. Patient was presenting symptoms and the Hospital there told the CDC. CDC said he didn’t meet requirements to be tested. The hospital said F that, and quarantined him anyway. Eventually he did get tested days later and was positive. Great work by the hospital staff there.

In King county, WA the CDC declared the area an endemic and won’t be testing as much to prevent hospital staff from being exposed (because apparently the test increases exposure risk to staff). So they are treating patients with the assumption they have it, which is fine, but it doesn’t reflect as official stats.
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Good faith. The numbers in King County are low given it has been 18 days.
 
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allvol123 said:
Growth rate in confirmed cases is low. That isnt an assumption.
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allvol123 said:
Growth rate in confirmed cases is low. That isnt an assumption.
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We are going in circles. I already explained that you can’t have confirmed case growth if you can’t or aren’t able to test.

You are free to believe that the lack of testing is in correlation to low amounts of people showing symptoms and I hope that’s true, but there isn’t great evidence to support that. But again, I hope it’s true.
 
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#5,840
I think the bigger pandemic facing the world is the global toilet paper shortage. Do people actually think they can't wipe their butt with anything other than TP?
 
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vols40 said:
The board knows when you have lost an argument. You have 2 responses when this occurs.
1. Strawman reference
2. Tin foil hats
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Congratulations on your big win against an argument not being had. Keep posturing kid, doubling down and seeking affirmation is a great look.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Yeah -- so really, the test only helps with monitoring the spread of the virus and determines if a person warrants prolonged quarantine. I suppose that in a critical case, a positive result might suggest the use of a trial antiviral, but that's not really in my wheelhouse.

As far as patient outcome, the test is useless. It's kind of like testing kids for RSV -- the treatment is supportive and based on symptoms, and a positive result doesn't change anything.
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And as Hiliary would say, "At this point, what does it matter?"
 
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