2020 Presidential Race

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I’m interested to see who Warren endorses. If she supports Bernie she’ll be distancing herself from the establishment, which wouldn’t be a wise career move. However, if she endorses Biden all of the Bernie supporters will forever know her as a sellout.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
I’m interested to see who Warren endorses. If she supports Bernie she’ll be distancing herself from the establishment, which wouldn’t be a wise career move. However, if she endorses Biden all of the Bernie supporters will forever know her as a sellout.
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She's 71 years old. How much longer will her 'career' last?
 
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luthervol said:
I saw it. She was pulling far more from Bernie.
But it's a ridiculous point in my mind.
I was just using it to highlight the idiocy of the conspiracy theories about the DNC fixing the election.
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Yeah I think 'fixing' is too harsh a term. They are definitely 'guiding' it though.. OF course you will disagree because you see what you believe.
 
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GVF said:
That would be par for the course. They despise the don so much they are seriously considering Kamala/Abrams and actually think those would make good VP's. Talk about a big left hook into the trees.
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At least Kamala Harris is a sitting US Senator, so she’s slightly plausible. Abrams is just an odd consideration IMO.
 
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luthervol said:
I saw it. She was pulling far more from Bernie.
But it's a ridiculous point in my mind.
I was just using it to highlight the idiocy of the conspiracy theories about the DNC fixing the election.
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Fix is probably the wrong word, but it’s obvious the field is being cleared so a mainstream candidate can consolidate support.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
How the hell should I know
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I don't expect you to 'know'.
The point is that her career is in it's sunset. She has used all her ammo in this election and won't be back for another try. So now she is free to show her true colors and back whomever she wants. She'll get another term in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts and continue to be the whiny socialist she is from the cheap seats.
 
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GAVol said:
It amazes me that there don’t seem to be any 50-somethings in the wings nationally for the Democratic Party.
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I don't think there are any 50 something socialists that have any record to make them 'leaders' in that party. At least not any that have gone full retard enough to get the Jihad Squad support anyway.... I could be wrong on that though.
 
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GAVol said:
Fix is probably the wrong word, but it’s obvious the field is being cleared so a mainstream candidate can consolidate support.
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I can go along with that, and find it completely appropriate.
(The field is clearing itself)
 
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luthervol said:
I can go along with that, and find it completely appropriate.
(The field is clearing itself)
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A lot of it is just a result of Super Tuesday, where the donors go and what the math looks like. I’m sure that’s what got Bloomberg and Warren out.

But DNC intervention is the only explanation I can come up with for Mayor Pete and Klobuchar competing in SC on a Saturday and then have a magical epiphany before Super Tuesday.
 
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GAVol said:
A lot of it is just a result of Super Tuesday and where the donors go. But DNC intervention is the only explanation I can come up with for Mayor Pete and Klobuchar competing in SC and then have a magical epiphany before Super Tuesday.
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They were offered something to get them to drop out before Super Tuesday.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I don't expect you to 'know'.
The point is that her career is in it's sunset. She has used all her ammo in this election and won't be back for another try. So now she is free to show her true colors and back whomever she wants. She'll get another term in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts and continue to be the whiny socialist she is from the cheap seats.
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That’s probably the most likely scenario. Realistically I don’t think she has enough in the tank to give a presidential run another try, but she could always go the Nancy Pelosi route and stay in politics until she’s a million years old.
 
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GAVol said:
At least Kamala Harris is a sitting US Senator, so she’s slightly plausible. Abrams is just an odd consideration IMO.
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Given that Biden doesn't need an AA VP to gain AA support I think both of these are non-starters. You don't need help in California so Harris brings little value and much baggage. GA could be in play but Abrahms doesn't have much name recognition and I imagine Independents will consider the real chance that Biden doesn't serve out his term. Klobuchar is probably a good bet to firm up the Midwest where Trump did well and almost pulled Minnesota.
 
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hog88 said:
Yep, it will be interesting to see what it was.
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Pete in particular was going to be susceptible to an offer. Realistically, being a small town mayor and openly gay doesn’t seem upwardly mobile in statewide Indiana politics.
 
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volinbham said:
Given that Biden doesn't need an AA VP to gain AA support I think both of these are non-starters. You don't need help in California so Harris brings little value and much baggage. GA could be in play but Abrahms doesn't have much name recognition and I imagine Independents will consider the real chance that Biden doesn't serve out his term. Klobuchar is probably a good bet to firm up the Midwest where Trump did well and almost pulled Minnesota.
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Amy is the most logical choice for VP. Pete was probably offered Defense or maybe even State.
 
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GAVol said:
A lot of it is just a result of Super Tuesday, where the donors go and what the math looks like. I’m sure that’s what got Bloomberg and Warren out.

But DNC intervention is the only explanation I can come up with for Mayor Pete and Klobuchar competing in SC on a Saturday and then have a magical epiphany before Super Tuesday.
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Mayor Pete and Klobuchar are certainly at least as smart as the people working at the DNC. Whatever the DNC could see, you know Pete and Amy could see as well.
Everyone is on the same page now more than ever. There is really only one objective.
 
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volinbham said:
Given that Biden doesn't need an AA VP to gain AA support I think both of these are non-starters. You don't need help in California so Harris brings little value and much baggage. GA could be in play but Abrahms doesn't have much name recognition and I imagine Independents will consider the real chance that Biden doesn't serve out his term. Klobuchar is probably a good bet to firm up the Midwest where Trump did well and almost pulled Minnesota.
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100%
 
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Joe Biden: Not a Socialist, Just a Scoundrel

He is a vicious partisan, a coward, and a habitual liar.

oor Bernie Sanders! The youth vote failed to show up for him. The youth vote always fails to show up — it will break your heart every time. Senator Sanders didn’t lose to Joe Biden — he lost to Tinder, weed, and The Resident. The kids were doing themselves a favor — young people have more of a future for Senator Sanders and his coterie of socialist dingbat malefactors to ruin.

Arising from the tumult, triumphant, was the dotty figure of Joe Biden. Biden and Sanders vying for the Democratic nomination, Michael Bloomberg perhaps at least dreaming idly of a third-party run — as of today, the youngest man with a realistic shot of winning the 2020 presidential election is Donald Trump, 73 years of age.

What is he?

He is a vicious self-serving political hack, for one thing, one whose ambition leads him from time to time into shocking indecency. You may have heard that Biden lost his wife and daughter in a horrifying drunk-driving wreck, the fault of a monster of a man who irresponsibly “drank his lunch,” as Biden puts it.

Biden’s wife and daughter did, in fact, die in a car wreck. That is true. It is not true that the driver of the other car was drunk, that he had been drinking, or that there was any reason to believe he was drunk or had been drinking — or even that he was at fault. The late Mrs. Biden “drove into the path of [the] tractor-trailer,” the police report says. But Biden, like every other third-rate ward-heeler of his ilk, thinks and speaks only in terms of good guys and bad guys, white hats and black hats — and if something bad happens to good people, then it must be because somebody in a black hat did something nefarious. The driver of that truck went to his grave haunted by Biden’s lies, to the point where his children were forced to beg the vice president to stop defaming their late father. The casual cruelty with which Biden is willing to subordinate the lives of ordinary people to his political ambitions — for the sake of a petty tear-jerker line in one of his occasionally plagiarized stump speeches — is remarkable.

But that’s Joe Biden. Just a regular guy from Scranton who takes the train to work (with a 20-man security detail swarming the platform at every stop and the aisles roped off to separate him from the riffraff, as I have seen firsthand) whose kids ended up growing vastly wealthy from unpredictable business opportunities to which they had no especial claim beyond their proximity to political power.

Biden was protected by the Democratic political machine and then by Senate seniority; later, he was protected by the Obama administration and by protectors of the Obama administration. And so he continues doing the same things he always has done. Some of you may remember that Biden — who got into trouble for plagiarism back in the 1980s, when I was in eighth grade (and who already was running for president way back then) — was pillaging Margaret Thatcher’s speeches (and Neil Kinnock’s, too, not that anybody remembers him) to flesh out one of his own orations. That was embarrassing. What is embarrassing is that he is still doing it, as the Washington Post reports, with his campaign stealing material for advocacy groups and presenting it as the work of his campaign.

That is a pattern. A man who can lightly misrepresent the circumstances surrounding the death of his wife and infant daughter is liable to be just as cavalier when it comes to, say, slavery, telling a largely black audience that Mitt Romney — Mitt Romney! — wants to “put y’all back in chains.” (Oh, that “y’all”!) Cynical doesn’t begin to cover it.

Joe Biden: Not a Socialist, Just a Scoundrel | National Review
 
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