2020 Presidential Race

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luthervol said:
They are being fed conspiracy theories from all of their sources. That "Trumps" truth and reason for a large majority of them.
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It’s a conspiracy when they drop out for no reason , it’s NOT a conspiracy when they drop out before Super Tuesday and within 24 turn their ground game into a Biden ground game . It’s simple math and political promises being made .
 
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MontyPython said:
"The best news for Democrats in the Super Tuesday results may not be the surge of Joe Biden, or Bernie Sanders hanging on, or even Mike Bloomberg dropping out (although I am personally extra thrilled about that). No, the best news is the record and near record turnout of Democratic voters all across the country. Whoever the eventual nominee is, it’s clear that Democrats are fired up and ready to vote to defeat Donald Trump.
In Virginia, Democratic primary turnout was the highest on record, surpassing the previous record set in 2008. In fact, 23% of registered Virginians cast ballots on Super Tuesday, which almost doubled primary turnout from 2016.

Utah saw a turnout in Tuesday’s Democratic primary that eclipsed previous turnout for any primary held in the state, among Democrats or Republicans.

In North Carolina, voter turnout was also up over 2016 numbers. And early voting had a strong surge — with almost twice as many Democrats in the state casting early ballots compared with Republicans. "
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except most states had Republicans and Independents voting as Democrats to choose a candidate that they wanted Trump to run against
 
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volfanhill said:
Whose the puppet master I keep seeing referenced but not named? The one who made Amy and Pete drop out. The one who is apparently naming Biden’s VP pick for him. Please don’t just throw out Soros.
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Obama's name has been thrown around too. Alledgely he met with both Amy and Pete, or called them, within hours of them dropping. Then you have the cankles cabal. Who is clearly anyone but Bernie, because they know he cant be controlled as he has enough actual support to tell them to shove it.

And then beyond that I would look at whoever fixed the super delegate system last time or made sure braille gave Hilary the questions, or whoever has all the Dem congressional types dress all in white. Or those who own the media.

Plenty of individual boogey men out there to choose from. You are naive to think that both sides dont have a mover and shaker or twelve that pushes things inside the party.

AOC has commented on it, Amash left the Rs because of it. I am sure there are more.
 
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MontyPython said:
"The best news for Democrats in the Super Tuesday results may not be the surge of Joe Biden, or Bernie Sanders hanging on, or even Mike Bloomberg dropping out (although I am personally extra thrilled about that). No, the best news is the record and near record turnout of Democratic voters all across the country. Whoever the eventual nominee is, it’s clear that Democrats are fired up and ready to vote to defeat Donald Trump.
In Virginia, Democratic primary turnout was the highest on record, surpassing the previous record set in 2008. In fact, 23% of registered Virginians cast ballots on Super Tuesday, which almost doubled primary turnout from 2016.

Utah saw a turnout in Tuesday’s Democratic primary that eclipsed previous turnout for any primary held in the state, among Democrats or Republicans.

In North Carolina, voter turnout was also up over 2016 numbers. And early voting had a strong surge — with almost twice as many Democrats in the state casting early ballots compared with Republicans. "
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I have what you would probably call “ unexpected and troubling “ news .

Trump's Super Tuesday results: Broad appeal beyond a united GOP
 
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0nelilreb said:
I have what you would probably call “ unexpected and troubling “ news .

Trump's Super Tuesday results: Broad appeal beyond a united GOP
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Mmmmhmmmm... one small problem with the article's author that could *possibly* raise questions about its veracity:

Kayleigh McEnany is the national press secretary for President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign.

Thank god we know we can count on the Trump campaign to be 100% open and honest. Phew!
 
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0nelilreb said:
It’s a conspiracy when they drop out for no reason , it’s NOT a conspiracy when they drop out before Super Tuesday and within 24 turn their ground game into a Biden ground game . It’s simple math and political promises being made .
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The conspiracy rests in the claim that they were somehow strong armed or coerced by the DNC.
They did what they thought was best in order to beat Trump. That's the simple math.
 
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MontyPython said:
"The best news for Democrats in the Super Tuesday results may not be the surge of Joe Biden, or Bernie Sanders hanging on, or even Mike Bloomberg dropping out (although I am personally extra thrilled about that). No, the best news is the record and near record turnout of Democratic voters all across the country. Whoever the eventual nominee is, it’s clear that Democrats are fired up and ready to vote to defeat Donald Trump.
In Virginia, Democratic primary turnout was the highest on record, surpassing the previous record set in 2008. In fact, 23% of registered Virginians cast ballots on Super Tuesday, which almost doubled primary turnout from 2016.

Utah saw a turnout in Tuesday’s Democratic primary that eclipsed previous turnout for any primary held in the state, among Democrats or Republicans.

In North Carolina, voter turnout was also up over 2016 numbers. And early voting had a strong surge — with almost twice as many Democrats in the state casting early ballots compared with Republicans. "
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The Utah Republican primary had a bigger turnout than the caucus last cycle as well.
 
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luthervol said:
The conspiracy rests in the claim that they were somehow strong armed or coerced by the DNC.
They did what they thought was best in order to beat Trump. That's the simple math.
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You mean to tell me that South Carolina results meant that much?

Why did they run in the first place? It was the same math then.
 
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37L1 said:
No one really cares who. Not many care if it is Biden or Bernie. Most are probably glad it isn't a communist/socialist and therefore are relieved that the democrat establishment rallied behind Biden to push him ahead, probably for good. I mean to say, most are relieved that a communist does not have a good chance now to be the candidate chosen for President. That would be real bad for the country.

But aren't any of you just a bit curious as to the timing of the Buttigieg/Klobuchar pull out just days ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries? Not just a little?
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The enmass exit tells me everything I need to know. The dnc has made its choice and completed the mechanations to make it happen. The dems will take another loss in 2020.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The enmass exit tells me everything I need to know. The dnc has made its choice and completed the mechanations to make it happen. The dems will take another loss in 2020.
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How does Warren dropping out help Biden? It hurts Biden.
That seems to blow your whole theory out of the water.
Also, when did the 16 repub. candidates end their campaigns in 2016?
Was there a conspiracy behind the timing?
 
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volfanhill said:
Whose the puppet master I keep seeing referenced but not named? The one who made Amy and Pete drop out. The one who is apparently naming Biden’s VP pick for him. Please don’t just throw out Soros.
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I don't think there's a "puppet master", per se, but I'm convinced leaders in the party talked Pete and Amy into dropping out to help Biden. It makes sense. They don't want Bernie to get the nom because he's unlikely to beat Trump as a socialist. JMO, but I think that's common sense. As for who picks VP, do you think it's a crazy idea that there would be people advising Biden who the best choice might be? Or crazy that party leaders would be pushing him to make a certain choice? Has nothing to do with Biden's mental acuity so much as how this is how the process works. There are absolutely people behind the scenes with influence. This is true of both parties.
 
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37L1 said:
No one really cares who. Not many care if it is Biden or Bernie. Most are probably glad it isn't a communist/socialist and therefore are relieved that the democrat establishment rallied behind Biden to push him ahead, probably for good. I mean to say, most are relieved that a communist does not have a good chance now to be the candidate chosen for President. That would be real bad for the country.

But aren't any of you just a bit curious as to the timing of the Buttigieg/Klobuchar pull out just days ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries? Not just a little?
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I think Republican leaders care. Biden is a tougher opponent for Trump than Bernie, and the Democrats know that. Socialism is just too hard a sell for most Americans.
 
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LouderVol said:
Obama's name has been thrown around too. Alledgely he met with both Amy and Pete, or called them, within hours of them dropping. Then you have the cankles cabal. Who is clearly anyone but Bernie, because they know he cant be controlled as he has enough actual support to tell them to shove it.

And then beyond that I would look at whoever fixed the super delegate system last time or made sure braille gave Hilary the questions, or whoever has all the Dem congressional types dress all in white. Or those who own the media.

Plenty of individual boogey men out there to choose from. You are naive to think that both sides dont have a mover and shaker or twelve that pushes things inside the party.

AOC has commented on it, Amash left the Rs because of it. I am sure there are more.
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Both parties have people behind the scenes pulling strings. Most things don't happen due to "coincidence". Denying the truth of that, or calling it conspiracy, is foolish.
 
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