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AM64 said:
Great. First they contaminated pet food with melamine and now they've moved on to a virus. If we don't get smart and take our injestables away from them, what are the fools going to screw up next. They have no respect for human life, the environment, or sanitation; why are we letting the Chinese handle our food and drugs?
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Lenin was correct.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Lots of assumptions in this. You're taking china's numbers at face value and using them as a means to extrapolate similar proportions to the US. Another assumption is that the quality of the resources will save us. It is simply a numbers game. There are only so many hospital beds and ventilators to go around. If the health care system gets overwhelmed, the quality of care will diminish greatly.
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Oh, I agree. I don't trust China at all. It will be more informative to see how it spreads and how patients fare in Europe, Japan, etc.

Truth is: nobody can say with certainty what is going to come of this, right now. Best to be cautious and prepared, but no reason for panic. I really hope warm, humid weather comes quickly, which typically brings the end of what we call "respiratory season," and that this strain behaves like the majority of other similar viruses.
 
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The Navy is ordering all ships who visited any countries in the Pacific to self-quarantine for 14 days before traveling to another port.
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Be a good time for the ships in the Pacific to cruise around the S China Sea ... basically buzz the Chinese man made islands, and generally annoy the crap out of them.
 
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Love how our media are reporting on 60 cases in the US...when 46 of those were aboard the Diamond Princess and have since been retested and released..they report the total cases worldwide as 70k..but leave out that nearly half have already fully recovered
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Velo Vol said:
His response is gibberish. The House passed articles of impeachment almost two weeks before China announced it had a coronavirus problem.
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Trump acted faster than Nancy did with her role in the impeachment process. He's handled expats, things are rolling in the CDC, and he's purged a few treasonous souls. Unless he can get WeatherTech to switch from floormats to hazmat, or work the bureaucracy like a slave master (and you'd whine), not sure what else he can do. I've never seen execs actually do much work or carry water, and the DC bureaucracy is protected by Civil Service ... they'll work at their own pace ... when and if they feel like it. Remember congress made the rules about government purchasing, lowest bidders, and all the other GSA obstacles.
 
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Trump acted faster than Nancy did with her role in the impeachment process. He's handled expats, things are rolling in the CDC, and he's purged a few treasonous souls. Unless he can get WeatherTech to switch from floormats to hazmat, or work the bureaucracy like a slave master (and you'd whine), not sure what else he can do. I've never seen execs actually do much work or carry water, and the DC bureaucracy is protected by Civil Service ... they'll work at their own pace ... when and if they feel like it. Remember congress made the rules about government purchasing, lowest bidders, and all the other GSA obstacles.
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You do know that he allowed, or his admin, to over rule the CDC on flights back here right? I don’t care that he is pissed now. It’s his admin. He runs the show.
 
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Coug said:
Someone should tweet to Trump that him and his administration had a 2 month head start on this virus and they completely wasted it.
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Nonsense, but we're used to Democrats politicizing urgent matters, including the deaths of 3000 Americans in NY (see Hillary Clinton "Bush Knew!")

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What did he do in January?
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Back up a bit.
  1. On Dec. 30, the Wuhan Municipal Health Committee reported to the WHO that 27 people had been diagnosed with pneumonia of unknown cause, and didn't charge their version of the CDC with investigating the outbreak until Dec. 31st.
  2. Chinese citizen Li Wenliang told his alumni medial school group on Dec. 31st that patients were not responding to standard treaments, before his government revealed the virus to the Chinese public. On 3 January 2020, Dr. Li Wenliang, the Wuhan ophthalmologist who had been arrested for spreading false "rumors" on WeChat, was summoned to the Wuhan Public Security Bureau where he was told to sign an official confession and admonition letter promising to cease spreading false "rumors" regarding the coronavirus.
  3. Jan 4 - The WHO waited for China to release information about the "mysterious new pneumonia virus".[43] The United Nations agency activated its incident-management system at the country, regional and global level and was standing ready to launch a broader response if it was needed. The WHO's regional office in Manila said in Twitter posts Saturday.: "#China has reported to WHO regarding a cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan, Hubei Province.
  4. Jan 9 - The WHO confirmed that the novel coronavirus had been isolated from one person who had been hospitalised.[54][55] On the same day, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control posted its first risk assessment.[56] The WHO also reported that Chinese authorities had acted swiftly
  5. Jan 20 - These cases linked to the meeting were the first evidence that the Wuhan coronavirus had spread through human-to-human contact outside China, which the WHO has said is deeply concerning and could signal evidence of a much larger outbreak
  6. Jan 21 - The World Health Organization announced that it would hold an emergency meeting on the virus the following day to determine if the virus is a "public health emergency of international concern
  7. Jan 22 - WHO's emergency committee was unable to reach a consensus—with one member stating that the vote was "50/50. Even."—on whether the outbreak should be classified as a PHEIC due to lack of information.
  8. Jan 29 - President Donald Trump announced the creation of a task force to monitor and combat the new coronavirus that originated in China.
  9. Jan 30 - The WHO director-general declares the coronavirus outbreak a "Public Health Emergency of International Concern" (PHEIC), reversing two previous decisions after emergency committee meetings in the last week.
  10. Jan 31 - The United States government declares a Public Health Emergency due to the coronavirus, and is closing its borders to all foreign nationals "who pose a threat of transmitting the virus from entering the country and would quarantine U.S. citizens returning from Hubei province in China, the epicenter of the outbreak, for up to 14 days
 
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You do know that he allowed, or his admin, to over rule the CDC on flights back here right? I don’t care that he is pissed now. It’s his admin. He runs the show.
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I remember the story was that they made a decision in the field without informing him and he was irate. Have the press dumped that story because it doesn't fit the "he's doing nothing" agenda? I personally agreed with bringing them back regardless of what Trump thought so long as isolation was exactly that.
 
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Currently there are 42k active cases which amounts to 0.00057% of the world's population and 98% of those 42k are gonna be fine in about two weeks btw
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VolnJC said:
Currently there are 42k active cases which amounts to 0.00057% of the world's population and 98% of those 42k are gonna be fine in about two weeks btw
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China had a two month head start on the rest of the world. These numbers are about to get ugly, I'm afraid. And we're handling it the way China did. Cover it up, downplay it, trivialize it, deny it. It's all about optics and saving the economy, not about public health and safety.
 
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Septic said:
Americans with coronavirus were flown home over CDC objections: report

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...f54cae-5279-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html

https://nypost.com/2020/02/20/coron...n-back-to-us-on-plane-full-of-healthy-people/
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Thank you. I'm used up on WaPo for the month but assume it reads similar to the other two. This is actually more informative than those two: Trump was furious that 14 Americans infected with coronavirus boarded a plane back to the US | Daily Mail Online

I'm not upset over this, even though understanding Trump's anger for the administration being left in the dark on the decision.

The article states they were already in the evacuation pipe, and it was not discovered they were infected until on the tarmac. Bio-containment units were already on the planes in case anyone become symptomatic during flight. and fully equipped and capable infectious disease doctors were on board to ensure quarantine and that aid, if needed, was available for anyone becoming symptomatic. It appears due precautions were taken.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
China had a two month head start on the rest of the world. These numbers are about to get ugly, I'm afraid. And we're handling it the way China did. Cover it up, downplay it, trivialize it, deny it. It's all about optics and saving the economy, not about public health and safety.
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Whew - what a relief having someone else carry the Jaded Government Critic award around for a few days! I may take some laps around the track.
 
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VolnJC said:
Love how our media are reporting on 60 cases in the US...when 46 of those were aboard the Diamond Princess and have since been retested and released..they report the total cases worldwide as 70k..but leave out that nearly half have already fully recovered
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Bro! According to CNN all of North California is "on watch"!! Its Like bird flu and SARS, but this time its the one!
 
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