2020 Primaries

[allvol123]

Yes lets abolish the federal minimum wage. Quite frankly there shouldn’t be state minimum wage laws. Everything should be handled on the city/county level.

No it should be handled on the employer / employee level. Government shouldn't be setting any wages.

 

[hog88]

My bad, that was supposed to say for wages.

My first job off the farm was installing auto glass at $3.35 per hour. Worked 60 hours a week. now your turn.

 

[Boston Vol]

See I can not get mad about this because I know that not only do most people find this outlandish, most people want to raise the minimum wage.

Yes people want to raise the minimum wage because it makes them feel good. Thing is hardly anyone in this country is making minimum wage. And if you’re an adult who is making minimum wage for more than a few months, then you might want to look in the mirror, because the problem is you.

 

[volinbham]

It never ceases to amaze me that 20 something year olds know more about the 1950's, 60's, and 70's than somebody like me who spent every day for 3 years living in them.

plus he's arguing for MAGA!

 

[zaqhhh]

My first job off the farm was installing auto glass at $3.35 per hour. Worked 60 hours a week. now your turn.

What year?

 

[DC_Vol]

I paid for my education then. I worked from the time I was 12 and worked full time through college and still had to borrow money. I assure you that I've worked every crappy job out there and as a teen did my time at minimum wage.

Name one of those jobs and I bet I've done it

I bet you were never a social media influencer. Or a community activist.

 

[vols40]

You don't pay for education now, you didn't work jobs that our generation does now.

There is a reason why the Boomers are the most Conservative generation. And why Gen Z/Millennial is the most left wing.

Our economy worked for one of us at the time and screwed the rest of us over.

Boomers are the generation who first said yes we want the government more involved in our lives

 

[volinbham]

Boomers are the generation who first said yes we want the government more involved in our lives

sad but true story

 

[hog88]

What year?

1986 but what does that matter?

What was your first job and what did you get paid?

 

[Weezer]

You don't pay for education now, you didn't work jobs that our generation does now.

There is a reason why the Boomers are the most Conservative generation. And why Gen Z/Millennial is the most left wing.

Our economy worked for one of us at the time and screwed the rest of us over.

This is just funny.

 

[zaqhhh]

Boomers are the generation who first said yes we want the government more involved in our lives

Pretty sure New Dealers would argue that.

 

[vols40]

Again please do something and I will personally pay out of pocket for Popcorn for this forum to watch your attempt.

Pop Corn... Big balla...
What's really sad is people actually believe the recession of 2009 was catastrophic. But no one turned off there cellphone.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Out of those 3, 2 I know wouldn't call themselves Republican today. But they were in 2016.

One still does.

No rational self sufficient person would support anything that lunatic stands for.

hes not rational or self sufficient

 

[Rickyvol77]

I love the dying in the street argument. Do you really believe human history started with a socialized health care system?

Imo it changes some serious paradigms if the government suddenly becomes responsible for choosing who lives and dies in the streets. And not in a good way. "Oh I see you voted for the loser of the last election, your care has been denied due to lost paper work." "Oh I am sorry you dont fit the nations ideal health standard, you are too far gone to save."

He literally believes that trash too. Kids straight out of college can be so easily duped

 

[volinbham]

1986 but what does that matter?

What was your first job and what did you get paid?

I'm still not sure Zaqhhh has had a job; at least not a full time one.

 

[Matt2496]

You don't pay for education now, you didn't work jobs that our generation does now.

There is a reason why the Boomers are the most Conservative generation. And why Gen Z/Millennial is the most left wing.

Our economy worked for one of us at the time and screwed the rest of us over.

 

[vols40]

Pretty sure New Dealers would argue that.

There is no "New Dealer" generation. WWII then boomers, gen x. You will learn this in Highschool history when you get there

 

[zeppelin128]

Pete's town hall is starting on CNN.

 

[Rickyvol77]

That's isn't a government program which is what the conversation is about.

Private insurance doesn't work in other nations and it isn't working here. Just drives up cost by making it more complicated.

You know NOTHING about healthcare or how hospitals operate

 

[C-south]

1986 but what does that matter?

What was your first job and what did you get paid?

Maybe if you ask 10 more times he’ll answer.

 

[zaqhhh]

1986 but what does that matter?

What was your first job and what did you get paid?

Ok so let's do some comparison here.

3.35$ in 1986 is equal to 7.90 today.

Roughly equivalent what I made for my first few jobs: $8.00

College costs today are 129% of what they were in 1988.

Therefore despite making the same and adjusting for base inflation:

A person today has to work roughly twice as hard in order to afford what you could back then. And that's not even factoring healthcare and rental costs which would make that comparison worse.

 

[1972 Grad]

It never ceases to amaze me that 20 something year olds know more about the 1950's, 60's, and 70's than somebody like me who spent every day for 30 years living in them.

I corrected this from 3 years to 30 years. You learn a little in 30 years.

 

[TheDeeble]

Exactly, and based on what the wage to education cost ratio was back then, most college kids today could have also.

But we can't now and that's why there is a full on revolt in the Democratic Party right now. We don't want subtle change, we want systemic change.

Are you one of those unfortunate people that went into 50k+ of debt for a degree in philosophy or interpretive dance or something?

 

[vols40]

He literally believes that trash too. Kids straight out of college can be so easily duped

It's because colleges are no longer colleges they should be called indoctrination centers

 

[Rickyvol77]

So even in a "great" economy with wages up, people still can't afford healthcare, rent, or education. So now what?

Trump didn't solve it, you are telling me that my ideas won't work. What is your solution?

Oh wait. You don't care

YOU Believe hospitals should have the right to refuse patients who can't pay. That is insane to 90% of Americans. And probably 100% of the rest of the world.

Hospitals already refuse non emergent patients who can’t pay because they make their own poor lifestyle choices like drug abuse or getting shot in a robbery