Why I Can't Afford to Vote Democrat

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Rasputin_Vol said:
'Worked" is past tense. So I would really be curious to know when it was you were able to work a $15/hr job and keep you family living as comfortable as possible?
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Why should anyone who makes $15/hour have a 'family' ESPECIALLY with children, and think the rest of the world should feel sorry for them and more importantly financially support them? Having children is a responsibility. YOUR responsibility. YOUR children are YOUR responsibility... not mine. I already pay for YOUR children's education. You can go work 2 jobs. Deliver pizzas. Don't get that cool tattoo, stop smoking and be a responsible parent. I don't care what you do, but if you MUST have children, you need to figure out how to pay for them.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Why should anyone who makes $15/hour have a 'family' ESPECIALLY with children, and think the rest of the world should feel sorry for them and more importantly financially support them? Having children is a responsibility. YOUR responsibility. YOUR children are YOUR responsibility... not mine. I already pay for YOUR children's education. You can go work 2 jobs. Deliver pizzas. Don't get that cool tattoo, stop smoking and be a responsible parent. I don't care what you do, but if you MUST have children, you need to figure out how to pay for them.
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If you were a lone parent trying to raise kid(s) on $15 per hour, then yeah, that would be challenging regardless of where you live. Most middle & upper middle-class families have both parents bringing income into the household. Long gone are the days of 1955 where the dad has a solid job supporting the entire family while the mother takes care of the home. The cost of living in the US almost forces both parents to work these days. I thank the lord everyday that my wife and I have good paying jobs preventing us from dealing with financial struggles.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
If you were a lone parent trying to raise kid(s) on $15 per hour, then yeah, that would be challenging regardless of where you live. Most middle & upper middle-class families have both parents bringing income into the household. Long gone are the days of 1955 where the dad has a solid job supporting the entire family while the mother takes care of the home. The cost of living in the US almost forces both parents to work these days. I thank the lord everyday that my wife and I have good paying jobs preventing us from dealing with financial struggles.
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I would amend “cost of living” with “cost of keeping up.” Take a look around the world at the standard of living in most countries and the work people do to live at that standard. I have absolutely no research, but would bet that most Americans live beyond their means to keep up with the Jones’s.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I would amend “cost of living” with “cost of keeping up.” Take a look around the world at the standard of living in most countries and the work people do to live at that standard. I have absolutely no research, but would bet that most Americans live beyond their means to keep up with the Jones’s.
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Very good and true observation. Most want to enjoy life spend money but don’t really understand or want to put funds away for emergencies. Living paycheck to paycheck is borderline homeless. Doesn’t mean you cannot find a place to stay but not the idea of what most envision as the American dream if you lost your home.
 
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utvolpj said:
Polk. The way homeless are counted vs homeless children is different. Shared dwellings, shelters, motels, trailers, etc are all counted for kids and the number includes all who experienced homelessness during the school year.
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Does this mean if I get a job there and have to live in a Residence Inn for a month while I close on a house my children would be tagged as homeless?
 
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Wireless1 said:
Does this mean if I get a job there and have to live in a Residence Inn for a month while I close on a house my children would be tagged as homeless?
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I would guess that's possible but it would definitely be outside the norm. There's a difference between the RI hotel and a no name motel. There are other qualifications too
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
If you were a lone parent trying to raise kid(s) on $15 per hour, then yeah, that would be challenging regardless of where you live. Most middle & upper middle-class families have both parents bringing income into the household. Long gone are the days of 1955 where the dad has a solid job supporting the entire family while the mother takes care of the home. The cost of living in the US almost forces both parents to work these days. I thank the lord everyday that my wife and I have good paying jobs preventing us from dealing with financial struggles.
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Not the cost of living. In 1955 families lived in 1000 sqft homes with one car a party line phone and 1/4 the clothes. Dad would work overtime for something extra, and you saved for “luxury” items rather than put it on a card at 18% interest
 
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Wireless1 said:
Not the cost of living. In 1955 families lived in 1000 sqft homes with one car a party line phone and 1/4 the clothes. Dad would work overtime for something extra, and you saved for “luxury” items rather than put it on a card at 18% interest
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The point trying to be made was a family could make it on one source of income. My grandfather supported his two sons & wife on a decent wage around this same time in the 50s.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I would amend “cost of living” with “cost of keeping up.” Take a look around the world at the standard of living in most countries and the work people do to live at that standard. I have absolutely no research, but would bet that most Americans live beyond their means to keep up with the Jones’s.
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Of that there is no doubt. Debt is way too easy to enter into in this country. It. is. slavery.

My point remains though that it is personal responsibility to refrain from 'buying' all that **** you can't afford. If you are making $15/hour and trying to support a 'family' You do not have enough money for ANY luxury. None, zilch nada. So STOP BUYING things. No more tatts. No more cigs. Stop it. And since that is apparently too hard for government schooled individuals to comprehend, get the **** out of my wallet to support your bad decisions.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Of that there is no doubt. Debt is way too easy to enter into in this country. It. is. slavery.

My point remains though that it is personal responsibility to refrain from 'buying' all that **** you can't afford. If you are making $15/hour and trying to support a 'family' You do not have enough money for ANY luxury. None, zilch nada. So STOP BUYING things. No more tatts. No more cigs. Stop it. And since that is apparently too hard for government schooled individuals to comprehend, get the **** out of my wallet to support your bad decisions.
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Most aren't doing that
 
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utvolpj said:
Most aren't doing that
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So we have single people out there making $15/hour living in poverty. PLease tell me then how these payday loan places are surviving. I know I have never been in one. $15/hour is $2400/month before taxes which is probably all of $60 bucks. Can you afford cable TV? iPhone 10s and subscriptions with that? Are 'most' doing without those things? gtfo.
 
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Wireless1 said:
Not the cost of living. In 1955 families lived in 1000 sqft homes with one car a party line phone and 1/4 the clothes. Dad would work overtime for something extra, and you saved for “luxury” items rather than put it on a card at 18% interest
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And Tennessee state and local sales tax was 3% of everything you bought, not 9.75%. Property tax was much lower.Insurance was much cheaper. Health insurance was pretty much non-existent because healthcare was cheap, and people didn't go to the doctor every day for a hangnail.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
So we have single people out there making $15/hour living in poverty. PLease tell me then how these payday loan places are surviving. I know I have never been in one. $15/hour is $2400/month before taxes which is probably all of $60 bucks. Can you afford cable TV? iPhone 10s and subscriptions with that? Are 'most' doing without those things? gtfo.
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yes most are. You're talking out of your ass

Of course there are extreme examples but the col is rising these days
 
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