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well, what i learned today is we had a plan....didn't even have time to get the board fired up. lol. that in and of itself is a good thing. so i don't think we got blind sided and obviously pruitt and Ansley had a list, and already did the work behind the scenes.

did the Chip Long hire actually happen?

so the only thing we need now is a director of personnel?

i like the brumbaugh hire on the surface. he's been all over the place. not sure if that's a good or bad thing from a recruiting standpoint, but he's coached some good DLmen.

Felton, pruitt knows him already....so he knows what he's getting and i remember seeing his name mentioned a lot when he was here by recruits so i think he may wind up being a pretty good recruiter for us....young energetic guy, i'd bet he'll do well relating to prospects.


all in all, if you're going to have an exodous....it's good to know there's folks that were ready to step right in, that want to be here and apparently want to be part of what's going on.

it's all TBD on if they're good or bad hires. for now, on paper, it looks pretty good......
 
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Bring_Back_Dooley said:
I'm not sure where the opinions are coming from that suddenly Rumph and Rocker have morphed into elite, unreplaceable DL coaches. The main criticisms with the two is their recruiting (or lack thereof, especially for Rocker). A good/great recruiting DL coach will be a huge upgrade.
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Not talking about their recruiting. I'm talking about their teaching. Especially the way we saw the DL improve during the season under Rocker. We've all agreed that upgrades at recruiting would be nice, but given the limited experience of the replacements, we have no clue how they will recruit.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yeah.. How dare anyone state and opinion that they DON'T KNOW if these hires are upgrades over Rumph and Rocker. THE AUDACITY!
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I seem to remember you being one of the many posters complaining about Rocker's non-existent recruiting. Even an average-recruiting DL coach is a significant upgrade over Rocker.

There's no problem with differing opinions, but the detractors are whining like Pruitt just hired two Pop Warner coaches from Montana.
 
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Weezer said:
Not talking about their recruiting. I'm talking about their teaching. Especially the way we saw the DL improve during the season under Rocker. We've all agreed that upgrades at recruiting would be nice, but given the limited experience of the replacements, we have no clue how they will recruit.
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Wait, so there's no other DL coaches that can teach the position as well as, or better than, Rumph and/or Rocker? None?
 
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WarMachine said:
I know you didn't say this, someone else did, but literally no one is attacking anyone either, pretty sure.
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I was referring to some snarky comments made by the usual snarky comment people. Not you, and perhaps I overstated, but we all have bad mornings where the snark catches us in a moment where it touches a nerve.
 
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Here are my thoughts:

Drew Hughes must not have a very high IQ

Rumph and Rocker are excellent position coaches. Rocker's work with the DL especially was something to see. However, both weren't very good recruiters. Rumph was mediocre and Rocker was absolutely terrible as a recruiter.

The guys that we have hired are most likely good coaches, or Pruitt would not have hired them. They are unproven at a program like TN though, especially Felton. Now, they may turn out to be great hires. In fact, they probably will. I doubt they'll be worse recruiters than the guys who just moved on. But we need to hope that the DL coach is a good one because he has big shoes to fill as a teacher.

But, we had the opportunity with the money to get whoever we wanted. Maybe that's exactly what Pruitt did. However, Pruitt made a mistake in hiring Tyson Helton. He corrected that mistake with Jim Chaney. We had the opportunity to hire a Chaney or Jay type hire for these positions. We didn't do that though. But perhaps these are the guys Pruitt wanted, and if that's the case, then he has a good reason. So I'm sure that everything will be fine with them. I'm not saying they're bad hires. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. It's a wait and see.

But go ahead and crucify me guys. It's fine.
 
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Bring_Back_Dooley said:
I seem to remember you being one of the many posters complaining about Rocker's non-existent recruiting. Even an average-recruiting DL coach is a significant upgrade over Rocker.

There's no problem with differing opinions, but the detractors are whining like Pruitt just hired two Pop Warner coaches from Montana.
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Wrong. No one is whining. Rocker is an awful recruiter. He was a fantastic coach though. And if the guy we just hired isn't a fantastic coach, then if nothing else, we've taken a step back in the coaching department of an all important position.
 
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utkevdawg1 said:
I mean, this bickering shows the digression of the board. We use to just settle this with Waffle House knife fights and get it over with. When did that stop?
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it's the lifeblood of this site. or any site for that matter that gives people the opportunity to express themselves.

frankly, it's been pretty boring lately. too many good things going on. no one is mad. no one is discussing anything.

nothign changes that like a coaching search/hire.
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grab those pitchforks and torches!!! get 'em!
 
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I've never heard of Brumbaugh before, wait and see hire for me. I trust Tucker and Pruitt when it comes to defense though. Felton has ties to GA, so recruiting should be good, I hope.
 
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I’m sold on the Brumbaugh hire. He has a nice track record to sell in prospects’ living rooms, and since it happened so fast, I’d guess it was in the works and he was Pruitt’s guy.

As for Shelton Felton, I do remember lots of recruits talking about him after visits, but still a big ? for me.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Is it fair to compare resumes when Rocker has a decade+ more experience though?

Jimmy B's only been at it 15 years
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10 jobs in 15 years... that's a lot of moving.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Here are my thoughts:

Drew Hughes must not have a very high IQ

Rumph and Rocker are excellent position coaches. Rocker's work with the DL especially was something to see. However, both weren't very good recruiters. Rumph was mediocre and Rocker was absolutely terrible as a recruiter.

The guys that we have hired are most likely good coaches, or Pruitt would not have hired them. They are unproven at a program like TN though, especially Felton. Now, they may turn out to be great hires. In fact, they probably will. I doubt they'll be worse recruiters than the guys who just moved on. But we need to hope that the DL coach is a good one because he has big shoes to fill as a teacher.

But, we had the opportunity, with the money to get whoever we wanted. Maybe that's exactly what Pruitt did. However, Pruitt made a mistake in hiring Tyson Helton. He corrected that mistake with Jim Chaney. We had the opportunity to hire a Chaney or Jay type hire for these positions. We didn't do that though. But perhaps these are the guys Pruitt wanted, and if that's the case, then he has a good reason. So I'm sure that everything will be fine with them. I'm not saying they're bad hires. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. It's a wait and see.

But go ahead and crucify me guys. It's fine.
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Well said.
 
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tnhunter 10 said:
I've never heard of Brumbaugh before, wait and see hire for me. I trust Tucker and Pruitt when it comes to defense though. Felton has ties to GA, so recruiting should be good, I hope.
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I’m starting to be all for Felton after thinking about it. Young dude that can speak the same lingo and think like these kids do. That will go a long way imo.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Here are my thoughts:

Drew Hughes must not have a very high IQ

Rumph and Rocker are excellent position coaches. Rocker's work with the DL especially was something to see. However, both weren't very good recruiters. Rumph was mediocre and Rocker was absolutely terrible as a recruiter.

The guys that we have hired are most likely good coaches, or Pruitt would not have hired them. They are unproven at a program like TN though, especially Felton. Now, they may turn out to be great hires. In fact, they probably will. I doubt they'll be worse recruiters than the guys who just moved on. But we need to hope that the DL coach is a good one because he has big shoes to fill as a teacher.

But, we had the opportunity, with the money to get whoever we wanted. Maybe that's exactly what Pruitt did. However, Pruitt made a mistake in hiring Tyson Helton. He corrected that mistake with Jim Chaney. We had the opportunity to hire a Chaney or Jay type hire for these positions. We didn't do that though. But perhaps these are the guys Pruitt wanted, and if that's the case, then he has a good reason. So I'm sure that everything will be fine with them. I'm not saying they're bad hires. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. It's a wait and see.

But go ahead and crucify me guys. It's fine.
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With Offense, Pruitt hired someone who he could trust, and who he respected. He is hands off on O. I trust Pruitt with the Defense. He knows what a good defensive coach looks like, and what they need to be successful.
 
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