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#76
#76
Bama scored at least 35 in every single game this year. They obviously were balanced enough to do whatever they wanted on offense. Which is my point that u are not catching. If u have a real passing threat at qb and a decent Oline it makes the ENTIRE offense better. Bama had Tua so they could do whatever they wanted on offense. They basically ran the ball to close out games. U take out that 300 from Gray against a checked out Vandy and they have 600 more rushing yards then us without being 100% comitted to running the ball. They could have run for whatever they wanted to. They had a line, and a passing game that went for at least 280 in every single game except against us. We only threw for 275 or more 3 times the entire year. Come on man i know that u know the QB matters. When we get the ability to threaten a team passing the ball the offense will open up and we will be able to do whatever we want.
I never said QB didn't matter, you said our bad QB play was effecting our running game and I say it's not as our QB play is not nearly as bad as you made it out. And FWIW, Alabama going to a pass 1st offense made them a worse team the last 2 years. Everyone wants to lay the blame on JG and I don't think that is the problem with our running game and the stats show it to be so.
 
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#77
I never said QB didn't matter, you said our bad QB play was effecting our running game and I say it's not as our QB play is not nearly as bad as you made it out. And FWIW, Alabama going to a pass 1st offense made them a worse team the last 2 years. Everyone wants to lay the blame on JG and I don't think that is the problem with our running game and the stats show it to be so.
No bama's defense not being what it normally is the last 2 years made them a worse team. They have loss 3 games in the last 2 years and they scored at least 41 in 2 of those 3 games.Picking Tua over Hurts made them a more complete team on offense becuase they had an advantage throwing the ball. Having a real Qb helps your run game idc what u say its the truth. Look at the superbowl game as an prime example. The chiefs threw for less yards then they did in their previous 2 playoff games but they ran for more yards then their other 2 games. Andy Reid has never been a run 1st coach yet they were able to run when they needed to against the #2 rush defense in the NFL. Its becuase their is a stud Qb under center. Look at us the last 2 decades or so. Just about all of our top rushing teams had a legit trigger man who could throw or we had a guy who was a real rushing threat ( Martin, Dobbs). Bottomline is our RB's are good runners. Not once had anyone said they are superstars. They also are not as bad as u seem to think. With an improved oline and better qb play they will put up better numbers. I believe our backs are more then capable of getting the job done. Ty and Tim will be seniors. This will be the 1st time they had an oline this good and dnt have to switch offensive schemes. Gray is going to be a star.
 
#78
#78
That is just wrong. We regularly get 7 in coverage vs a four man front. We are much better passing so teams try to stop the pass first.
You.... are wrong again. Dropping 7 is a good defense of JG. He doesn't process quickly. He doesn't anticipate throws. You put more guys in coverage and he's going to fail to sustain drives.... Predictable.

JG # 80. Take a look at all of those "great" QB's ahead of him.

PFF Rankings: Final college football starting quarterback rankings | College Football and NFL Draft | PFF
 
#79
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You.... are wrong again. Dropping 7 is a good defense of JG. He doesn't process quickly. He doesn't anticipate throws. You put more guys in coverage and he's going to fail to sustain drives.... Predictable.

JG # 80. Take a look at all of those "great" QB's ahead of him.

PFF Rankings: Final college football starting quarterback rankings | College Football and NFL Draft | PFF

That's pretty bad overall. They even reference the highs and lows......which we've all watched. I'm hoping JG can at least cut that ranking more than half........but have my doubts.
 
#80
#80
That's pretty bad overall. They even reference the highs and lows......which we've all watched. I'm hoping JG can at least cut that ranking more than half........but have my doubts.
It isn't what you should expect of a 4th year QB with the kind of physical talent JG has. He just doesn't appear to have the ability to process information quickly enough or anticipate throws. It isn't what any of us want to see or believe. But this is an innate talent like any other. It appears to be a weakness for JG that opposing DC's capitalize on frequently.
 
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Chaney has to use whatever QB/RB he has in there and call plays according to what the abilities are. Run plays, short passes, TE passes, sweeps, bombs, RPOs.
He can't call plays for a Thoroughbred QB/RB when he has a Draft Horse QB/RB in the line up.
 
#82
#82
You.... are wrong again. Dropping 7 is a good defense of JG. He doesn't process quickly. He doesn't anticipate throws. You put more guys in coverage and he's going to fail to sustain drives.... Predictable.

JG # 80. Take a look at all of those "great" QB's ahead of him.

PFF Rankings: Final college football starting quarterback rankings | College Football and NFL Draft | PFF
Of course we need JG to be more effective, but the point is that it's not as if we're struggling to run because everybody disrespects the pass and plays zero coverage and 8 man fronts against us.
 
#83
#83
I've been saying this exact thing to @PulaskiVolFan but they seem to think the passing game is just fine, there is no qb competition, and passing doesnt effect the run game smh.....

I've been saying this exact thing to @PulaskiVolFan but they seem to think the passing game is just fine, there is no qb competition, and passing doesnt effect the run game smh.....

Anyone who understands football knows that you have to have a threat in the passing game to have a good enough running game to win the sec. We must have a balanced attack to win the sec.
 
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Of course we need JG to be more effective, but the point is that it's not as if we're struggling to run because everybody disrespects the pass and plays zero coverage and 8 man fronts against us.
They don't have to. They can play run then recover before JG is ready to throw.
 
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I never said QB didn't matter, you said our bad QB play was effecting our running game and I say it's not as our QB play is not nearly as bad as you made it out. And FWIW, Alabama going to a pass 1st offense made them a worse team the last 2 years. Everyone wants to lay the blame on JG and I don't think that is the problem with our running game and the stats show it to be so.

I agree with this.

Our passing game was wildly inconsistent with both JG and Maurer struggling at times, but that was not the problem with the run game at all. If anything, most opposing defenses were most worried about giving up big passing plays to Jennings and Callaway and that helped open up the run game somewhat. And yet the run game still sucked for much of the year.

While the OL improved dramatically this year, run blocking was still a weakness, particularly in the 1st half of the season. Think it got a lot better at the end of the season, though. And Eric Gray took advantage big time.

If we get Cade Mays eligible and everyone healthy on the OL, think we should take a big step forward this year. Trey Smith, Brandon Kennedy, Cade Mays, Darnell Wright, and Wanya Morris is a potentially excellent OL. Now we just need our RBs to take advantage.
 
#86
#86
They don't have to. They can play run then recover before JG is ready to throw.
Which is what im saying. Ask JG were those extra guys were coming from in 2018 when he took the worse beating of any qb I've ever seen. Alot of the time those were DB's and LB's hitting him not just DL's. How many times did we see guys running wide open this year??? Nearly every game and we usually missed the throw. We saw CJP go on a rant for that very thing. The fact that guys were open so often tells us they arent playing coverage 1st.
 
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Which is what im saying. Ask JG were those extra guys were coming from in 2018 when he took the worse beating of any qb I've ever seen. Alot of the time those were DB's and LB's hitting him not just DL's. How many times did we see guys running wide open this year??? Nearly every game and we usually missed the throw. We saw CJP go on a rant for that very thing. The fact that guys were open so often tells us they arent playing coverage 1st.
But they can still recover in coverage unless your QB can hit the quick reads.
 
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#88
My biggest question is, are we REALLY significantly better or is it fools gold due to benefitting from a weaker back end schedule last season? My thing is, if you take away the wins and just look at how we played in those last few games, we really didn't look that great, especially offensively. I hope JG finds another gear in the offseason or Bailey ends up being everything we hope he can be as a freshman.
I think we were good enough to make a ton of mental mistakes and still win against teams better than BYU and Georgia State. That comeback against Indiana was pretty special too.
 
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#89
#89
I don't see how anyone can possibly answer anything but "QB." (Unless, I guess, you are confident that Bailey will come in and start from day one). There's just no way to believe the light will come in for JG in year 5. I'm afraid that what you've seen is what you get there.
 
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