To Protect and to Serve II

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n_huffhines said:
"these"

Arrest the fraudsters that are stealing from people and leave everybody else alone. Licensure is ********. It's supposed to be a free country, not a police state. It's not that complicated.

Did you come up with a link to your made up laws yet?
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made up? LOL

2010 Tennessee Code
Title 7 - Consolidated Governments
Chapter 63 - Actions in Lieu of Arrest
Part 1 - Traffic Citations in Lieu of Arrest
7-63-104 - Arrest when offender refuses to sign agreement to appear.
7-63-104. Arrest when offender refuses to sign agreement to appear.

In the event the offender refuses to sign the agreement to appear in court and to waive the issuance and service upon the offender of a warrant, then it shall be the duty of the officer, in whose presence the offense is committed, forthwith to place the offender under arrest and take the offender before the proper authority, procure a warrant, serve the warrant upon the offender and book the offender as in other cases of violations. The authority issuing the warrant shall take bail from the accused for appearance in court for trial, or in lieu of bail, commit the offender to jail.

[Acts 1969, ch. 208, § 4; T.C.A., § 6-654.]
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
"**** the police?" really? Do you not understand what these criminals are doing to people and the need for them to be arrested? These are transient druggies who prey on elderly people and others by taking thousands of dollars and either saying they are doing house work, roofing, etc. and then leaving them without doing any work... You dont believe these people need to be arrested?? It is a crime that happens daily and causes a lot of issues for the victims
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All of them were transient druggies bent on robbing people? What are the odds? Why didn’t they fleece the cops?
 
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#9,228
Rickyvol77 said:
All of them ARE stealing from people, i agree about the licensure part, but these people are fleecing people and stealing their money, then leaving the state for months at a time. It's not as simple as you are trying to make it
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These specific guys the police arrested defrauded people of their money? Where are you getting that from? Is this another one of your made up facts?
 
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#9,229
n_huffhines said:
If the kid were fleeing your property, what happens if you shoot him in the back. Why is a trained officer held to a lower standard than you?

Link, please?
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um wasn't it YOUR story that you found? Did you actually read it?

the kid was committing a felony by directly burglarizing a truck - Check
the kid had a fake gun that appeared to be a real weapon because he was committing crimes - Check
the officer told the kid to put his hands up and saw the gun - check
the kid ran away with the weapon and got shot - check
 
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#9,230
Rickyvol77 said:
made up? LOL

2010 Tennessee Code
Title 7 - Consolidated Governments
Chapter 63 - Actions in Lieu of Arrest
Part 1 - Traffic Citations in Lieu of Arrest
7-63-104 - Arrest when offender refuses to sign agreement to appear.
7-63-104. Arrest when offender refuses to sign agreement to appear.

In the event the offender refuses to sign the agreement to appear in court and to waive the issuance and service upon the offender of a warrant, then it shall be the duty of the officer, in whose presence the offense is committed, forthwith to place the offender under arrest and take the offender before the proper authority, procure a warrant, serve the warrant upon the offender and book the offender as in other cases of violations. The authority issuing the warrant shall take bail from the accused for appearance in court for trial, or in lieu of bail, commit the offender to jail.

[Acts 1969, ch. 208, § 4; T.C.A., § 6-654.]
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Thank you. Turns out, TN is a police state.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Thank you. Turns out, TN is a police state.
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oh so now the "fake made-up law" is real in your eyes?

The problem is that you really need to educate yourself on law and why police procedures are the way they are.

No one does a police sting for any reason without several directed citizen complaints and/or issues arising from the problem
 
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#9,232
Rickyvol77 said:
um wasn't it YOUR story that you found? Did you actually read it?

the kid was committing a felony by directly burglarizing a truck - Check
the kid had a fake gun that appeared to be a real weapon because he was committing crimes - Check
the officer told the kid to put his hands up and saw the gun - check
the kid ran away with the weapon and got shot - check
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I was asking for the TN law link for the 10th time.

You cannot shoot and wound an armed, fleeing, adult burglar in the back. You will go to jail. Why can a police officer shoot and kill what appears to be an armed, fleeing, teenage burglar in the back? Why are trained cops held to a lower standard?
 
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#9,233
Rickyvol77 said:
oh so now the "fake made-up law" is real in your eyes?

The problem is that you really need to educate yourself on law and why police procedures are the way they are.
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Hey, you got one. Good job.

The law is overcomplicated and enables the police state. Nobody really needs to educate themselves on the different ******** that goes on in each of the 50 states. WTF are you talking about? I asked you for backup several times and showed you several states where it wasn't so, then you finally showed in one place where you were right and then you act like a know-it-all.

No one does a police sting for any reason without several directed citizen complaints and/or issues arising from the problem
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Wow, you really believe this, don't you? Who needs education, now?
 
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n_huffhines said:
I was asking for the TN law link for the 10th time.

You cannot shoot and wound an armed, fleeing, adult burglar in the back. You will go to jail. Why can a police officer shoot and kill what appears to be an armed, fleeing, teenage burglar in the back? Why are trained cops held to a lower standard?
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That isn't true, you can use objective and reasonable force against an armed suspect who presents an immediate danger to themselves and others. Whether i am an officer or not...
 
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#9,235
n_huffhines said:
I was asking for the TN law link for the 10th time.

You cannot shoot and wound an armed, fleeing, adult burglar in the back. You will go to jail. Why can a police officer shoot and kill what appears to be an armed, fleeing, teenage burglar in the back? Why are trained cops held to a lower standard?
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i sent you the TN law showing that you were ignorant about the law concerning not signing citations, what else do you want to see? I suggest actually taking a law class or attending a citizen's police academy to see what it's actually like, not just what you think or wish it was like
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
That isn't true, you can use objective and reasonable force against an armed suspect who presents an immediate danger to themselves and others. Whether i am an officer or not...
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Shoot a fleeing burglar in the back and see if a jury thinks it's reasonable.
 
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#9,237
Rickyvol77 said:
i sent you the TN law showing that you were ignorant about the law concerning not signing citations, what else do you want to see? I suggest actually taking a law class or attending a citizen's police academy to see what it's actually like, not just what you think or wish it was like
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I saw it. I wasn't asking for it again, I was explaining that I was asking for it before you answered, LOL.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
POLICE SHOOTING: Anne Arundel County police detectives shot
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Not really seeing anything wrong the cops did there.

They investigate a homicide, find out that the victim's car was stollen, locate the stolen vehicle, and whoever was driving shot and injured two detectives.

Latest reports I've seen is that the shooter is in custody, and both detectives are still in the hospital but expected to survive.

Police: ‘Person of interest’ in custody after shooting of 2 Anne Arundel Co. detectives | WTOP

Can't really fault the cops for going after a person that already killed and robbed at least one person.

Given that a cop near Birmingham Alabama and a Florida Trooper where gunned down yesterday in separate incidents, I'm guessing the department in Maryland is happy that their ODMP page isn't getting updated.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
"**** the police?" really? Do you not understand what these criminals are doing to people and the need for them to be arrested? These are transient druggies who prey on elderly people and others by taking thousands of dollars and either saying they are doing house work, roofing, etc. and then leaving them without doing any work... You dont believe these people need to be arrested?? It is a crime that happens daily and causes a lot of issues for the victims
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Were the 118 arrested for robbing old ladies of their SSI checks or arrested for not having a license?
 
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#9,248
Rickyvol77 said:
oh so now the "fake made-up law" is real in your eyes?

The problem is that you really need to educate yourself on law and why police procedures are the way they are.

No one does a police sting for any reason without several directed citizen complaints and/or issues arising from the problem
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Now this is true. We indeed have a battle not only with the police, but with an ignorant populace that thinks the govt/police is the answer to everything.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
A cops word vs a live human citizen is air tight as it is, but a cops word vs a dead dog's?
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Wouldn't mind of the cops could use force, or give tickets, or anything where I live. Most neighbors have good pets and take care of their pets.

But I've had a couple neighbors who let their dogs run around unattended all over the neighborhood. The local PD is quick to respond but has no legal ability to do anything unless a dog kills or injures someone. The local animal control has 2 or 3 people total but never shows up til an hour later, and they keep bankers hours, you're SOL after 5 and on the weekend.

I've thought about dipping hot dogs or doggy treats in antifreeze and throwing on in a certain yard now and again, but I'd hate for one of the better neighbors to go for a walk and get their dogs killed instead.
 
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#9,250
Rickyvol77 said:
What was the material lie if you don’t mind me asking? The medical examiner is a different animal IMO and I have found that 4 of the 5 that I’ve worked with to be a little crazy
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Five lies about the basis for reasonable suspicion: 2 said “headlights were out” when they weren’t, 2 said stop sign was run when it wasn’t, 1 said he paced a guy going 75 in a 60, but it was on the interstate and you could see how many mile markers the defendant passed and of course the camera told the time, so this officer lost to basic mathematics.

Three lies about other events to try to get around constitutional issues: one involved entry into a hotel room when they got to court and learned the manager’s consent wasn’t enough, they said client consented, their affidavit and the security cameras from the hotel both showed client returning to the room while it’s being tossed. One learned that parking behind someone so their car can’t leave is a seizure and tried to lie about it. There’s actually one guy who once fought a police officer. One lied about administering a Miranda warnings.

One about a sensing issue. Jail video showed him in another room with his back turned, drafting his report during the 20 minutes. He’s since made a cameo in this thread.

One is ongoing.

One told a defendant he, the officer, was DEA and that he was going to do 10-15 years in federal prison if he didn’t consent to a search of his hotel. Not only was that not true but the officer swore under oath that he didn’t say that. he didn’t realize it had been picked up on another officer’s microphone.

One lied that he didn’t remember pulling rank on a detective to prevent him from collecting evidence that might have incriminated the liar’s family member. Detective and another officer testified that they had talked about it the day before and the liar had not only remembered it but said he was going to say he didn’t remember it.
 
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