2020 SOTU Speech Thread

#852
#852
zeppelin128 said:
Thanks, I'm very proud of what we have achieved. I've already made calls and texts to New Hampshire voters today. And I'm getting set up tonight to do the same in South Carolina. We had our best day fundraising today, and with new folks signing on to Pete. We are in this far beyond Super Tuesday.
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Until the Democrat machine steamrolls you like they did Bernie last year.
 
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#853
#853
Smokeyone said:
Oh no, the farm aid bill makes us all socialist. It's a weak argument. We do not have a pure capitalist system and haven't in a very long time.
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Then the question becomes (or is) how much socialism is the best amount? Is it today's level? Maybe the 1990's level? Or, is it the 1960s/40s/20s????
 
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#855
Septic said:
So discounting my evidence that there have been shifts left in regional purple state and that the poll of polls shows continued disapproval - you're going to point at an election where he didn't even win the popular vote?

Tell me more about this "overwhelming majority" you speak of. Is it your assertion that liberal enclaves (urban votes) should count because rural ones should count more? Is population density a new litmus test for patriotism?
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He said 'overwhelming majority' outside of liberal enclaves. I think he is correct in that statement.
 
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#856
utvolpj said:
Rand, Kasich, and I'm sure a couple others but it's been a while. I'm just amazed at the constant claims that trump is a staunch fiscal conservative when that is not the case. He never had been and even admitted it last night but no one seems to care
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Who claims this?
 
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#857
volfanjustin said:
Who claims this?
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His supporters do and usually claim to be one themselves. But as posters such as yourself have demonstrated you really don't understand the term anyway. You call dems trash yet carry the water for one daily. Maybe you're right for once....
 
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#861
utvolpj said:
His supporters do and usually claim to be one themselves. But as posters such as yourself have demonstrated you really don't understand the term anyway. You call dems trash yet carry the water for one daily. Maybe you're right for once....
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I have no delusion he's a conservative of any kind, some of his policies have been. The modern dem/socialist party are just about all trash, yes that's correct I have said it and will continue to say it.

Your party is in the middle of a primary, you all should focus your energy in getting someone who isn't a nutjob to run and work to get that person elected.
 
#862
#862
hog88 said:
Sweet Jesus I wish Trump would end all farm subsidies and price controls. Pure agri-capitalism would be great.
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How much would my milk cost and how much more would a dairy farmer earn under an unfettered capitalism system?
 
#863
#863
volfanjustin said:
I have no delusion he's a conservative of any kind, some of his policies have been. The modern dem/socialist party are just about all trash, yes that's correct I have said it and will continue to say it.

Your party is in the middle of a primary, you all should focus your energy in getting someone who isn't a nutjob to run and work to get that person elected.
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Well fookin A, at least you can admit it.
 
#864
#864
DinkinFlicka said:
Are you not fiscally conservative? Does it bother you at all that Trump is not? Do you even care about actual conservatism or is this really about the man to you?
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Yes
Yes
I don't agree with all the spending, otherwise he has been great. I don't agree with him on every single thing


Where was the concern by some of you over spending from Jan 2009-Jan 2017?
 
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#868
McDad said:
How much would my milk cost and how much more would a dairy farmer earn under an unfettered capitalism system?
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Those are numbers I don’t have. Wouldn’t see an immediate spike in your overall grocery bill it would take about a year for the little guys to fall by the wayside. But after that year and all we have left are the largest of the farms and co-ops left I’d say your groceries would at least double them level off. The farmers that make it through the transition will be sitting pretty since they could actually sell to the highest bidder.
 
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#870
hog88 said:
Those are numbers I don’t have. Wouldn’t see an immediate spike in your overall grocery bill it would take about a year for the little guys to fall by the wayside. But after that year and all we have left are the largest of the farms and co-ops left I’d say your groceries would at least double them level off. The farmers that make it through the transition will be sitting pretty since they could actually sell to the highest bidder.
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Wouldn't the smaller farms simply convert to niche markets like organic milk, cheese, etc?
 
#871
#871
volfanjustin said:
Your party is in the middle of a primary,
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no, they're not
volfanjustin said:
Where was the concern by some of you over spending from Jan 2009-Jan 2017?
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My posts from that time are readily available using the vn search. Anyone who was on here during that time should be able to tell you where I stood (on fiscal policy that would be to the right of you)
 
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#872
McDad said:
He said 'overwhelming majority' outside of liberal enclaves. I think he is correct in that statement.
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Smokeyone said:
Pretty much the overwhelming majority of those not in the handful of socialist enclaves are big fans of Trump right now....
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What constitutes a "socialist enclave"? Population density? Not voting for Trump? Is the largest state by population in CONUS considered an "enclave?" Is one of the handfuls? Or do we drill down to specific counties and communities until the votes meet the narrative?
 
#873
#873
Septic said:
What constitutes a "socialist enclave"? Population density? Not voting for Trump? Is the largest state by population in CONUS considered an "enclave?" Is one of the handfuls? Or do we drill down to specific counties and communities until the votes meet the narrative?
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My assumption is socialist enclave = Northeast, West Coast, and large Metro cities.
 
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