South Carolina Postgame Report

#27
#27
A win is a win and we won’t remember the details of this game in November. Just need more inside presence and better perimeter game.
 
#28
#28
Bowden and Pons need to take the ball to the hoop more. Then they can get fouled and maybe hit 1 of 2. Vescovi & JJJ should be only ones shooting a lot of 3s right now.
 
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#29
#29
1. Need more mid-range jumpers and less 3's from Bowden and Pons-maybe that gets them going? The threes aren't falling.
2. Need Uros, stat.
3. Need to win alot now, because we are probably going 0-5 to end the season.
 
#30
#30
I don't know why Pons spent so much time on the perimeter unless it's by design to create space for Fulkerson (kind of a weird strategy though). We need Pons posting up. Can he even play with his back to the basket?
 
#31
#31
James needs to shoot more while Bowden needs to focus on passing the ball and rebounding and not worry too much about jacking up 3 balls and just take it to the rim.

Fulkerson and Vescovi can step in for Bowden on the offensive end.

Pember hit a 3 and had some nice rebounds in extended 2nd half minutes.

Ugly win but that is to be expected against a Frank Martin coached team.
 
#32
#32
And Missouri just beat Florida. Going to be an interesting year. Enjoying the somewhat ugly ride.
 
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#33
#33
Best current options to score:
1) Vescovi for 3
2) Fulkerson posting up
3) James for 3
4) Pons posting up
5) Pons for 3
6) Johnson for 3
7) Bowden for 3

The sad part is that beginning the year our best options were Bowden and Turner. Barnes should get Vescovi about 10 shots from deep every game.
 
#34
#34
1Big_Orange_Fan said:
Best current options to score:
1) Vescovi for 3
2) Fulkerson posting up
3) James for 3
4) Pons posting up
5) Pons for 3
6) Johnson for 3
7) Bowden for 3

The sad part is that beginning the year our best options were Bowden and Turner. Barnes should get Vescovi about 10 shots from deep every game.
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1 is more scramble putbacks off the latest bricked 3.
 
#35
#35
What amazes me is how good Vescovi looks. In spite of the turnovers, he really brings a spark to the team when he is out there. It really felt like our scoring droughts happened while he was on the bench.
 
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#36
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amaralfan1 said:
What amazes me is how good Vescovi looks. In spite of the turnovers, he really brings a spark to the team when he is out there. It really felt like our scoring droughts happened while he was on the bench.
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He just needs to take care of the ball.
 
#37
#37
amaralfan1 said:
What amazes me is how good Vescovi looks. In spite of the turnovers, he really brings a spark to the team when he is out there. It really felt like our scoring droughts happened while he was on the bench.
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I don't remember him forcing a shot from the perimeter. He has gotten into trouble close to the basket though.
 
#38
#38
Bowden has a case of "Senioritis"... looks to me like he's loafing half the time just hanging around the 3-pt line. Glad Barnes called him out today, saying "he'd better start playing BB, or we'll put somebody else in to try and miss shots". He was much better as a spot player last year where he could get wide-open for catch and shoot. Fulkerson is consistently the best player on the floor, even though he lacks physical tools, kudos to him. We'll do well to finish .500 in the SEC. Our schedule is backloaded so we need all these close wins we can get.
 
#40
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cncchris33 said:
4. Honestly, the only player I can't really complain about, right now, is Fulkerson.
Bowden shot 1-17.
Pons shot 0-7.
Vescovi had 7 TOs.
Nkamhoua and Pember cannot defend or rebound effectively despite their size.
Fulk had a double-double, 15/10, hit all 5 of his FTs, and only committed 2 TOs and 3 fouls in 37 minutes.

5. We have seemingly lucked out by Vandy missing Nesmith. @UGA and then @Vandy was gonna be crucial to split. I feel better about our chances of doing that, but we have to be a better disciplined offensive team moving forward. Performances like today are inexcusable.
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Glad you have come around on Fulky, I believe for some reason you wanted him to transfer this time last year.
 
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#41
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Does anyone else get the feeling that there are “issues” amongst the coaches? It seems to me that coaches English and Oliver are pretty uninvolved during the game.
 
#43
#43
i2amavol said:
Everyone is allowed an off-night once in a while.
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I'm just gonna go with this...:D

PS. did anyone watch any other SEC games last night...we're not in this alone...it was pretty tough everywhere, except for Auburn who looks like a final four team right now...anyway...we'll come back from this...what else we gotta do...;)

GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
5 of 9 players in the rotation are freshmen. Hopefully they'll be playing like 5 sophomores before February ends. Making the NIT Final Four would be a great finish.

JJJ may not be filling up the scoring column, but he's pretty solid (except for a couple of really bad TOs).

I don't think that you sit Bowden. He just needs to take about 10 fewer shots per game.
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NCAA bid is certainly within reason. We're 10-5, 2-1. If we go 9-9 in league play, we'll get NCAA bid. Never seen such a weak field. Some of the very best teams are losing games they normally wouldn't lose.
 
#45
#45
VolsSportsFan said:
I'm disappointed in Pons. Early in the season he looked like he had taken a big step offensively and found a shot, but now his shot looks as ugly ever. I mean I guess it still looks better form-wise but he's not hitting them.
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Last game he had 11, LSU game he had 18 points. He's fine, and he still played elite defense.
 
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#46
#46
They're are a lot of things we need to do differently to fix our putrid offense.
1. We have to score in transition. Trying to score against a set defense is just not our forte. We have the athletes to get out and run. We have to do it more.
2. Continue to get to the foul line. If we aren't shooting at least 15 FTs a game, we aren't going to win. South Carolina really bailed us out time and again yesterday.
3. Stop settling for 3s. We just aren't a great 3 point shooting team. We should be doing more pin down screens for Bowden for midrange jumpers. Pons in the post or midrange is way more effective than Pons for 3. Vescovi and possibly James should continue to take them, and if someone is open you continue to take it as well, but stop forcing it.
4. We just have to be better at finishing around the rim. All of our guards are below average at best at finishing inside. Turner was easily the best on the team at that. We have to get better there, but you have to continue to attack as well. If you get in the paint, you will continue to get free throw shots as well.
5. Lastly, stop turning it over. You can't shoot if you don't have the ball.

I think before the season if you had told me that Turner retires, Bowden shoots, less than 20 percent from 3, and Fulkerson was our best player, I would've said we weren't winning more than 4 sec games. We're still fighting and clawing despite having just less talent than most teams.
 
#47
#47
Didn't watch the game. I'm somewhat optimistic just because of our youth.

Winning is more important than scoring. South Carolina, Missouri and other teams we face are "ugly" types of defense. Just how it is
 
#48
#48
USAFgolferVol said:
NCAA bid is certainly within reason. We're 10-5, 2-1. If we go 9-9 in league play, we'll get NCAA bid. Never seen such a weak field. Some of the very best teams are losing games they normally wouldn't lose.
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The team we saw yesterday and far too much recently will be lucky to win 5 more SEC games. Shooting 25% and having more TOs than assists is a death sentence against most of D1 basketball.
 
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#49
#49
Just shooting 40 percent would've made this almost a 20 point victory. I never imagined going into the season we would ever be this horrible on offense.
 
#50
#50
rdk4121 said:
They're are a lot of things we need to do differently to fix our putrid offense.
1. We have to score in transition. Trying to score against a set defense is just not our forte. We have the athletes to get out and run. We have to do it more.
2. Continue to get to the foul line. If we aren't shooting at least 15 FTs a game, we aren't going to win. South Carolina really bailed us out time and again yesterday.
3. Stop settling for 3s. We just aren't a great 3 point shooting team. We should be doing more pin down screens for Bowden for midrange jumpers. Pons in the post or midrange is way more effective than Pons for 3. Vescovi and possibly James should continue to take them, and if someone is open you continue to take it as well, but stop forcing it.
4. We just have to be better at finishing around the rim. All of our guards are below average at best at finishing inside. Turner was easily the best on the team at that. We have to get better there, but you have to continue to attack as well. If you get in the paint, you will continue to get free throw shots as well.
5. Lastly, stop turning it over. You can't shoot if you don't have the ball.

I think before the season if you had told me that Turner retires, Bowden shoots, less than 20 percent from 3, and Fulkerson was our best player, I would've said we weren't winning more than 4 sec games. We're still fighting and clawing despite having just less talent than most teams.
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We have talent, young talent that needs development. We also need JB to snap out of it. Just win ugly now and get better. About the only thing I can truly agree with in this thread is that it is hard to watch.
 
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