The Winning Streak

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I've seen a few folks on these forums pooh-pooh our 6-game winning streak. "Not great teams," they'd say, "not big challenges," or, "we barely won some of the games," things like that.

Well, let's just think about what goes into a winning streak, purely from a probability perspective.

What if every team we played was a near-peer, a rough equal? Well, that would mean a roughly 50/50 chance of winning each game. So we can calculate the odds we'd win 6 in a row. It is simply:

50% * 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% == .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 == .015625 == about 1.5%.

That's it, a less than 2% chance we get to where we are today.

But wait, the naysayers say, some of those weren't peer competition! Vandy wasn't peer competition! UAB wasn't either!

Okay, fair enough. Let's divide those six games into three groups: hugely favored (90% chance we win), slightly favored (60% chance), and slightly underdog (40% chance). We'll say that UAB and Vandy were 90% games ... that USCe (though we didn't know it then) and Kentucky were slightly favored for us (60%) ... and that we were slight underdogs for Mizzou and Indiana (40%).

GIven all that, our chance of running the back half of the schedule as we did was:

.60 * .90 * .60 * .40 * .90 * .40 == .046656 == a less than 5% chance we'd win out.

We can fiddle with the numbers some more, but it's always gonna come out in this general range: 2% to 5% chance of doing what our lads did. Accomplishing what they accomplished.

That's huge.

Lot to be proud of. Don't let the naysayers tell us any different.

Go Vols!
 
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Some need to downplay the winning streak because it doesn't fit the narrative with their negativity towards a certain player. Really getting old. I think the root of the problem is that many of these are the ones that said we would not win out with a certain person playing QB and they don't like being wrong.
 
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Some need to downplay the winning streak because it doesn't fit the narrative with their negativity towards a certain player. Really getting old. I think the root of the problem is that many of these are the ones that said we would not win out with a certain person playing QB and they don't like being wrong.
You are absolutely correct!
 
#5
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I've seen a few folks on these forums pooh-pooh our 6-game winning streak. "Not great teams," they'd say, "not big challenges," or, "we barely won some of the games," things like that.

Well, let's just think about what goes into a winning streak, purely from a probability perspective.

What if every team we played was a near-peer, a rough equal? Well, that would mean a roughly 50/50 chance of winning each game. So we can calculate the odds we'd win 6 in a row. It is simply:

50% * 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% == .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 == .015625 == about 1.5%.

That's it, a less than 2% chance we get to where we are today.

But wait, the naysayers say, some of those weren't peer competition! Vandy wasn't peer competition! UAB wasn't either!

Okay, fair enough. Let's divide those six games into three groups: hugely favored (90% chance we win), slightly favored (60% chance), and slightly underdog (40% chance). We'll say that UAB and Vandy were 90% games ... that USCe (though we didn't know it then) and Kentucky were slightly favored for us (60%) ... and that we were slight underdogs for Mizzou and Indiana (40%).

GIven all that, our chance of running the back half of the schedule as we did was:

.60 * .90 * .60 * .40 * .90 * .40 == .046656 == a less than 5% chance we'd win out.

We can fiddle with the numbers some more, but it's always gonna come out in this general range: 2% to 5% chance of doing what our lads did. Accomplishing what they accomplished.

That's huge.

Lot to be proud of. Don't let the naysayers tell us any different.

Go Vols!


Interesting, perspective. Thanks for taking the time to share. Never really thought about us going into next year with a winning streak.
 
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Interesting, perspective. Thanks for taking the time to share. Never really thought about us going into next year with a winning streak.

I think someone else noted the other day that we have the 3rd-longest winning streak among the Power 5 at the moment. And we'll have the 2nd-longest streak in the P5 after the national championship game is played, once either LSU or Clemson lose. [their winning streaks are 15 and 29 games long, respectively]
 
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I've seen a few folks on these forums pooh-pooh our 6-game winning streak. "Not great teams," they'd say, "not big challenges," or, "we barely won some of the games," things like that.

Well, let's just think about what goes into a winning streak, purely from a probability perspective.

What if every team we played was a near-peer, a rough equal? Well, that would mean a roughly 50/50 chance of winning each game. So we can calculate the odds we'd win 6 in a row. It is simply:

50% * 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% == .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 == .015625 == about 1.5%.

That's it, a less than 2% chance we get to where we are today.

But wait, the naysayers say, some of those weren't peer competition! Vandy wasn't peer competition! UAB wasn't either!

Okay, fair enough. Let's divide those six games into three groups: hugely favored (90% chance we win), slightly favored (60% chance), and slightly underdog (40% chance). We'll say that UAB and Vandy were 90% games ... that USCe (though we didn't know it then) and Kentucky were slightly favored for us (60%) ... and that we were slight underdogs for Mizzou and Indiana (40%).

GIven all that, our chance of running the back half of the schedule as we did was:

.60 * .90 * .60 * .40 * .90 * .40 == .046656 == a less than 5% chance we'd win out.

We can fiddle with the numbers some more, but it's always gonna come out in this general range: 2% to 5% chance of doing what our lads did. Accomplishing what they accomplished.

That's huge.

Lot to be proud of. Don't let the naysayers tell us any different.

Go Vols!

The only win I care about is the next win. Leave the winning streaks to the historians.
 
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If you're talking about a top 10 team beating the 6 opponents we beat, ok nothing to get excited about. We are talking about a team that is trying to build something. A team that was 5-7 the year before, a team that lost to Georgia state. So no matter who the opponent was it's something to get excited about. GO VOLS 🍊
 
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Some need to downplay the winning streak because it doesn't fit the narrative with their negativity towards a certain player. Really getting old. I think the root of the problem is that many of these are the ones that said we would not win out with a certain person playing QB and they don't like being wrong.

It's ok to say JG.
 
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#14
I bet people forget that Butch had an 11 game winning streak before losing to Texas A&M in double overtime.
That said, I feel a lot more optimistic now than I ever did back during that streak of 2015/16.
 
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I bet people forget that Butch had an 11 game winning streak before losing to Texas A&M in double overtime.
That said, I feel a lot more optimistic now than I ever did back during that streak of 2015/16.

Yes, and that 11-game streak included wins against every single SEC-East foe, yes, including both Florida and Georgia. As well as a bowl win over then #13 Northwestern. And a win over Virginia Tech in the most-attended game in football history.

It was a good streak. Regardless of the head coach not working out, it was a really good streak.

Go Vols!
 
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#21
Seriously though, nice post VFL-82-JP. It's hard to have a 6 game winning streak no matter the competition in the SEC. We are on the upswing no matter what we think. We're still a ways off but we are going to get there under Coach JP no doubt!
 
#23
#23
Math...........

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#25
#25
Lot of damn wisdom in this post.
Well hell fahr! We done gonna whoop der a$$ next year cause we done beat: UK, Vandy, Mizzouri, S. Carolina, UAB, and Indiana!

Or something like that.
 
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