Fire Chaney

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GoVols64 said:
Candidly, my "drive by" wasn't solely about you but since you responded we can dig into it further since you seem to love digging your own hole deeper.

Hard. Cold. Stats. Is that the name of your YouPorn channel? All you posted was a link to JGs career stats with little to no insight to your point other than our offense sucked this year. You were correct about that; we were not good. You also mention that we won because of improved Defensive play and again we agree.

Where you lose me is by making the jump from poor offensive performance to firing a very good offensive coach. We (nearly) universally agree, quite a feat on VN, that QB play was the absolute limiting factor this year. When we had good production out of our QBs we scored a lot of points. When we got the standard we struggled. The Hard. Cold. Stats. don't support anything other than the only meaningful difference in those stats were his INTs went up by 5 picks or 63%. That is statistically significant.

INTs are a product of poor decision making in most cases. They are also a double whammy because it takes away an opportunity to improve on your Hard. Cold. Stats. JG simply doesn't see the field like a QB. He waits for receivers to get open and is prone to panic throws (likely due to getting obliterated in his previous years). None of our QBs can read defenses worth a darn and that is expected from the Freshmen. JG should know better but, for whatever reason, doesn't anticipate at an SEC level resulting in picks, missed opportunities and a terrible output.

I don't care how good or bad your coaches are the guys on the field have to get it done. Even in the bowl game you could see the open receivers and that we schemed REALLY WELL against IU. JG simply didn't get it done. When the announcers are calling it out it is really bad because they tried hard to talk nice about him.

In closing you didn't post anything meaningful to the conversation you started other than what I consider emotional and ignorant statements. You blindly defended it long after the point was made. I have lost 5min of my life in a vain attempt to explain why I think you are incorrect and why most folks in the thread replied in a non-flattering manner. But we are probably all wrong.....

P.S. I have and always will say I really appreciate JGs commitment and sacrifice to the Vols. He is, by all accounts, a great kid and wish him all the best. He's the best worst QB we've had in a long time.
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Umkay.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Well for all the star gazers out there Georgia has had top 5 classes for several years now. Shouldn’t they be able to reload like Alabama has done for a decade. Losing players should not be an issue.
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The issue is one position was hit hard. Just like bama’s LB’s this year, which decimated bama’s defense. Recruiting rankings don’t account for busts or attrition. When Pruitt got to UT Butch had multiple decent classes before he arrived. However attrition and busts still left UT low on overall talent.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
The issue is one position was hit hard. Just like bama’s LB’s this year, which decimated bama’s defense. Recruiting rankings don’t account for busts or attrition. When Pruitt got to UT Butch had multiple decent classes before he arrived. However attrition and busts still left UT low on overall talent.
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Alabubba’s issues at lb were due to injury more than people leaving. As far as UGA is concerned, either they’re not recruiting as well as generally believed or they’re not developing top notch recruits. Either way it should be concerning to The puppies. Reminds me of the decline under Butch
 
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rikberry31 said:
Alabubba’s issues at lb were due to injury more than people leaving. As far as UGA is concerned, either they’re not recruiting as well as generally believed or they’re not developing top notch recruits. Either way it should be concerning to The puppies. Reminds me of the decline under Butch
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Attrition is attrition. It’s the same concept. Instead of injuries UGA had a bunch of WR’s leave early for the draft, one dismissal, then 2 injuries. The reason UGA was a still a top 5 team in spite of that is because of their recruiting. Seems a bit different from Butch since a top 5 finish and Sugar Bowl win would’ve been Butch Jones best year.
 
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KnoxLandcruiser said:
Stalker? More like admirer and #1 fan!!!

I don't think anyone brings as much solid information and on-point analysis as the roustabout. Your obvious football acumen and unwillingness to make knee jerk threads (emphasis on jerk) which unfairly criticize our coaches and players is a testament born out by your daily contributions.

6 game winning streak headed into the offseason and we have 12 pages of "Fire Chaney" because of roustabout....awesome stuff. Congrats on another great thread.
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Bout time you came around.

Most of the 12 pages is from folks like you complaining. If you think this offense is heading in the right direction more power to you.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Attrition is attrition. It’s the same concept. Instead of injuries UGA had a bunch of WR’s leave early for the draft, one dismissal, then 2 injuries. The reason UGA was a still a top 5 team in spite of that is because of their recruiting. Seems a bit different from Butch since a top 5 finish and Sugar Bowl win would’ve been Butch Jones best year.
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I’m not saying Butch rose to that level but the situations are relatively similar. I believe there are warning signs at UGA. An example is the o-line, it was touted as the best in the country. I don’t think they were close.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Tennessee absolutely stole CJC. Just like we stole Rick Barnes from Texas.
Its a good thing that crows reproduce very rapidly or they would be endangered.
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I haven't seen anything that convinces me yet. I hope you are right, but All I have seen so far is a guy that can out eat the OL.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I’m not saying Butch rose to that level but the situations are relatively similar. I believe there are warning signs at UGA. An example is the o-line, it was touted as the best in the country. I don’t think they were close.
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PFF had them rated as the number 2 line and both tackles will be first round picks. Not sure how you can judge a line. They didn’t give up a lot of sacks and were second in the NCAA in yards before contact for their backs. The o-line depth is about to get tested since they’re losing 3 starters.

As for Chaney, I don’t think you fire him. He’s versatile and is one of the best game planners there is. Bailey could develop well under him.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
PFF had them rated as the number 2 line and both tackles will be first round picks. Not sure how you can judge a line. They didn’t give up a lot of sacks and were second in the NCAA in yards before contact for their backs. The o-line depth is about to get tested since they’re losing 3 starters.

As for Chaney, I don’t think you fire him. He’s versatile and is one of the best game planners there is. Bailey could develop well under him.
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PFF also said Trey Smith was the 14th best rated guard in country. I don't know how they "rated" guard play but I challenge you to find me 13 better guards in the country. He would start at any one of the playoff teams this year.

I personally agree on Chaney. I think he will be good here when our roster turnover is finally complete. He can't help we have a head case for a QB and our best RB was a freshman this year.
 
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rjd970 said:
PFF also said Trey Smith was the 14th best rated guard in country. I don't know how they "rated" guard play but I challenge you to find me 13 better guards in the country. He would start at any one of the playoff teams this year.

I personally agree on Chaney. I think he will be good here when our roster turnover is finally complete. He can't help we have a head case for a QB and our best RB was a freshman this year.
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Was that before or after the season for Trey Smith? lol I honestly have no clue how to rate an offensive line’s play besides sacks allowed, which is why I brought up PFF. Kids got talent for sure and it’s great he managed to deal with his medical issues. Hate it for the kids who have their careers derailed with injuries, especially the ones that come out of nowhere like Trey’s blood condition or Mathis’ brain cyst.
 
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When you die, you don't know that you are dead. It is only hard on those who knew you. The same goes for when you are stupid.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
PFF had them rated as the number 2 line and both tackles will be first round picks. Not sure how you can judge a line. They didn’t give up a lot of sacks and were second in the NCAA in yards before contact for their backs. The o-line depth is about to get tested since they’re losing 3 starters.

As for Chaney, I don’t think you fire him. He’s versatile and is one of the best game planners there is. Bailey could develop well under him.
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Im not saying their o-line was bad by any stretch and they definitely had some talent. I said before the season that UGA was going to win the SEC because they would be able to impose their will with the o-line, I was wrong. Dominating o-lines push teams around.
You are right about Chaney, he is a master at maximizing what he’s given and scheming to his players abilities. The fact that we won 8 games with the excrement show at qb is testament to that.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Im not saying their o-line was bad by any stretch and they definitely had some talent. I said before the season that UGA was going to win the SEC because they would be able to impose their will with the o-line, I was wrong. Dominating o-lines push teams around.
You are right about Chaney, he is a master at maximizing what he’s given and scheming to his players abilities. The fact that we won 8 games with the excrement show at qb is testament to that.
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Issue was the lack of passing game. If a team loads the box then you aren’t gonna be successful running the ball.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Issue was the lack of passing game. If a team loads the box then you aren’t gonna be successful running the ball.
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Dominating o-lines run the ball with a stacked box. Tennessee ran the ball vs USCe and UGA could not. That was an eye opener for me.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Dominating o-lines run the ball with a stacked box. Tennessee ran the ball vs USCe and UGA could not. That was an eye opener for me.
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Tennessee could throw on USCe. UGA could not. That was the difference. When UGA could throw, they could run. That’s how they beat Auburn, Florida, and Baylor. The games they struggled to throw, they also struggled to run.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Tennessee could throw on USCe. UGA could not. That was the difference. When UGA could throw, they could run. That’s how they beat Auburn, Florida, and Baylor. The games they struggled to throw, they also struggled to run.
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I remember UGA going pass heavy because they were unable to run and Tennessee’s ability to run a little allowing them some play action opportunities.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I remember UGA going pass heavy because they were unable to run and Tennessee’s ability to run a little allowing them some play action opportunities.
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UGA’s WR got zero separation that game. Cager played a quarter or so before injury and then USC just locked down Landers and Simmons with man coverage. Its crazy to me they started games at UGA. They wouldn’t start at any other SEC school, yet attrition led them to see significant snaps that game. Think Pickens/Blaylock started getting more snaps after that game. One thing I don’t like about Smart’s system is playing the best blocking receivers rather than best overall receivers. Pickens and Blaylock should’ve been ahead of Landers and Simmons, blocking ability or not. If smart doesn’t learn that bully ball doesn’t work any more then he’s hit his ceiling.
 
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