JG just can’t play good

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volfan411 said:
I have said all along that my biggest issue with JG is consistency. He has one drive where he looks like an all-SEC player and two drives where he shouldn’t be on the field. Can he fix that over the spring? I sure hope so.

I think we have not seen enough of a healthy BM to have a fair evaluation of his ability. He does seem to have a the arm talent and running ability to be a very good QB but will he mature and grow into one. That is the million dollar question right now.
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I just don't see how Maurer is in the picture if JG returns and Bailey is as good as advertised.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
So we are going to play BM the next 3 years and then Bailey is going to come in and play his last 2 years of eligibility? That's another statement that will NEVER happen.
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If BM doesn‘t come out of spring as QB1 he more than likely will transfer. I think that is unfortunate because then we could be back in the same situation next season that we were this year.
 
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So what we’ve gathered is that JG will progress and develop because it would be a second season with Chaney, but at the same time, Brian Maurer and evening JT Shrout won’t progress and develop in a second offseason with Chaney because of how they played this year?

Sounds about right.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Not all. I never said that once. Maurer has 3 years left. You see there’s a thing call eligibility. Maurer played this year so he goes from 4 years left to 3.

Same with JT. Now if you’re a coach and you have 3 guys that 3 years left each and one guy who has one year left and all of them are about the same, why would you choose to waste time on the 1year guy over the other 3. Their ceiling is higher. They will be around longer.

Why would you risk your third year being another stressful year with the guy who historically is low reward/low risk over the other options.

I hope Maurer plays for 3 years. It means he has played well. However, we shouldn’t waste time on a QB who has shown he can’t improve / flip the switch when we have other guys who now have experience and aren’t that far away from JG.
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Never gonna happen, keep hoping though. QB1 will be JG/HB starting out the year with BM/Hill/JT all holding a clipboard and signaling in plays. You like to talk winning pct for QBs, check out Maurers the last 4 years including his HS games, he's never led a team to a win vs a decent opponent, much less vs an SEC opponent.
 
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Come on man. Wake up. I’m a VFL and try to be optimistic. But I’m also realistic. If you think we beat OU and FL with JG play next year you’ve lost it. His patented 14-17 points won’t get that done. Not unless he proves by huge and I mean huge strides. If one of these other QBs can’t beat him out then we will once again only beat the people we should beat. The bottom of the sec for another 7-8 wins. I wish I was wrong but it’s where we’d at. A QB away.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Never gonna happen, keep hoping though. QB1 will be JG/HB starting out the year with BM/Hill/JT all holding a clipboard and signaling in plays. You like to talk winning pct for QBs, check out Maurers the last 4 years including his HS games, he's never led a team to a win vs a decent opponent, much less vs an SEC opponent.
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But couldn’t the same be said for JG? I guess he did beat AUburn last year But what other game has he won that he wasn‘t supposed too?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
So what we’ve gathered is that JG will progress and develop because it would be a second season with Chaney, but at the same time, Brian Maurer and evening JT Shrout won’t progress and develop in a second offseason with Chaney because of how they played this year?

Sounds about right.
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What we've gathered is that you are a neverJG NegaVol that can't accept that the 3rd string developmental QB is likely not going to get many snaps moving forward.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Never gonna happen, keep hoping though. QB1 will be JG/HB starting out the year with BM/Hill/JT all holding a clipboard and signaling in plays. You like to talk winning pct for QBs, check out Maurers the last 4 years including his HS games, he's never led a team to a win vs a decent opponent, much less vs an SEC opponent.
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Well if we are going off high school stats, it’s clear JG should have never even played at Tennessee.

Regardless, Pruitt has shown in QBs that experience matters. That’s why JG was leaned on so heavily and he was hesitant to turn it over to a one of the freshmen.

With that said, JG (if he stays), Maurer, and Bailey will all likely be the top 3 in spring ball. Since you’re dealing in guarantees and certainties, you somehow think JG will challenge for keeping the job after a second offseason with Chaney but somehow that’s a negative thing for Maurer. Weird flex, but I will entertain it. Secondly, you think Bailey will walk right into it being right there with JG. So let me get this straight. JG is good enough to ensure Maurer will be holding the clipboard but not good enough that a true freshman will walk onto campus and push JG, the 5th year senior with 25 starts, for the job. All while being the QB who got bench in favor of the QB holding the clipboard? The guy who apparently has zero career left because of his play as a true freshman.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
Come on man. Wake up. I’m a VFL and try to be optimistic. But I’m also realistic. If you think we beat OU and FL with JG play next year you’ve lost it. His patented 14-17 points won’t get that done. Not unless he proves by huge and I mean huge strides. If one of these other QBs can’t beat him out then we will once again only beat the people we should beat. The bottom of the sec for another 7-8 wins. I wish I was wrong but it’s where we’d at. A QB away.
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Pure speculation on your part. I never guaranteed we could beat them but I sure as hell am not going to claim we can't.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
What we've gathered is that you are a neverJG NegaVol that can't accept that the 3rd string developmental QB is likely not going to get many snaps moving forward.
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Never JG? Sure. He’s capped out. He’s hit his ceiling. Third year is a big year for Pruitt and there’s no reason to have a bad season with JG when it would be better to have a bad season with the other QB’s who have Atleast 3 seasons left and can be built on.

Nothing personal, just business. JG can’t get the job done to win big at Tennessee. His performances and “STATS” are something that would be great at the school in Nashville or Starkville.

I’d rather invest time and effort into the guys who are the future instead of the guy who is the past.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Well if we are going off high school stats, it’s clear JG should have never even played at Tennessee.

Regardless, Pruitt has shown in QBs that experience matters. That’s why JG was leaned on so heavily and he was hesitant to turn it over to a one of the freshmen.

With that said, JG (if he stays), Maurer, and Bailey will all likely be the top 3 in spring ball. Since you’re dealing in guarantees and certainties, you somehow think JG will challenge for keeping the job after a second offseason with Chaney but somehow that’s a negative thing for Maurer. Weird flex, but I will entertain it. Secondly, you think Bailey will walk right into it being right there with JG. So let me get this straight. JG is good enough to ensure Maurer will be holding the clipboard but not good enough that a true freshman will walk onto campus and push JG, the 5th year senior with 25 starts, for the job. All while being the QB who got bench in favor of the QB holding the clipboard? The guy who apparently has zero career left because of his play as a true freshman.
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Yes, it's possible and highly likely that HB will be the most talented QB on our roster next year. BM, if he stays, will be a career backup QB the next 3 years, it's not that hard of a prediction really.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Yes, it's possible and highly likely that HB will be the most talented QB on our roster next year. BM, if he stays, will be a career backup QB the next 3 years, it's not that hard of a prediction really.
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For someone who loves to claim “PURE SPECULATION!!!!!” at everyone who says something against your buddy, you sure are doing exactly what you speak out against. Must be something in the water.
 
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volfan411 said:
not saying he would but his style of play would be a good fit in Kiffins system.
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I agree, and I'm sure Kiffin would love to have BM as a backup, same as Pruitt, I assume he's tickled to death that BM is a capable backup. He's still a project though and if Maurer wants playing time it's not going to be at any power5 school for at least 2 more years.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Pure speculation on your part. I never guaranteed we could beat them but I sure as hell am not going to claim we can't.
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A bit more than speculation. We’ve watched him for three years. I hate FL but we all saw them this year. If we can’t put together a much better offense it doesn’t happen. JG would have to make leaps and bounds, but we e already seen his ceiling. Best he could give us is better decision making. Your claim that he has the same arm talent as Maurer is silly. Anyone who has seen them throw can tell you that. However Maurer makes bad decisions as well. I’m not a Maurer fanboy. I hope HB is our answer and can start out if the gate. There will be pains, but it’s worth the risk if he’s as advertised. Time will tell. I just hope we have a starter that can make us relevant. I’m just realistic to know JG is not that
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I agree, and I'm sure Kiffin would love to have BM as a backup, same as Pruitt, I assume he's tickled to death that BM is a capable backup. He's still a project though and if Maurer wants playing time it's not going to be at any power5 school for at least 2 more years.
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I see you’re dealing out guarantees and certainties again.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I agree, and I'm sure Kiffin would love to have BM as a backup, same as Pruitt, I assume he's tickled to death that BM is a capable backup. He's still a project though and if Maurer wants playing time it's not going to be at any power5 school for at least 2 more years.
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Pure speculation.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
For someone who loves to claim “PURE SPECULATION!!!!!” at everyone who says something against your buddy, you sure are doing exactly what you speak out against. Must be something in the water.
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I'm not speculating anything in terms of wins or production, your reading comprehension is bad.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Yes, it's possible and highly likely that HB will be the most talented QB on our roster next year. BM, if he stays, will be a career backup QB the next 3 years, it's not that hard of a prediction really.
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BM and JG both have to be contemplating their future at this point. BM can still go through spring practice and transfer as he would have to RS anyways but JG as a grad transfer would want to go through spring practice with his new team. If HB is as good as advertised he may be the day one starter and both JG and BM be gone come August who knows.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I'm not speculating anything in terms of wins or production, your reading comprehension is bad.
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You have literally claimed that Maurer will be a career backup at Tennessee
You have claimed that its JG or Bailey next year
You have claimed that JG will somehow benefit from a second year with Chaney but Maurer won't apparently. I'm sure you should tell the staff since you can predict the future.

You love to call out everyone for speculating, but you are spewing the most hot air out of anyone in the name of #Speculation
 
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volfan411 said:
BM and JG both have to be contemplating their future at this point. BM can still go through spring practice and transfer as he would have to RS anyways but JG as a grad transfer would want to go through spring practice with his new team. If HB is as good as advertised he may be the day one starter and both JG and BM be gone come August who knows.
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I think deep down everyone knows how it's going to play out they just hate the thought of JG being QB1. I'm on record saying it'll be the JG/HB show going forward so we'll see who is right or not. If JG leaves it will be the HB/BM show with Bailey getting QB1 minutes the next 3 years.
 
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