JG just can’t play good

2.5 years of starting and he hasn't made significant jumps in production stats.

2.5 years with the mostly same receivers and he hasn't improved in production.

2.5 years of starting and has only scored more than 24 points against P5 teams just 4 times.

And each year there has been a different OC with a different offensive scheme. Let's hope we keep this OC and the bulk of the staff on that side of the ball next year. The inconsistencies have not been just at QB .. but with the OL and other key positions on that side of the ball.

As for scoring output - some offensive game plans are not meant to score a lot of points - so quit comparing what Tennessee does to the teams that MUST SCORE a lot of points because their defense is really bad.
 
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And each year there has been a different OC with a different offensive scheme. Let's hope we keep this OC and the bulk of the staff on that side of the ball next year. The inconsistencies have not been just at QB .. but with the OL and other key positions on that side of the ball.

As for scoring output - some offensive game plans are not meant to score a lot of points - so quit comparing what Tennessee does to the teams that MUST SCORE a lot of points because their defense is really bad.

Tennessee should have to score a lot of points and not rely on defense to anchor the team game in and game out......

At the end of the day, you have to be able to score to win with the way the SEC is going.... Forcing your defense to have to go out 12 games in a row and require them to play lights out every game is not possible.
 
Tennessee should have to score a lot of points and not rely on defense to anchor the team game in and game out......

At the end of the day, you have to be able to score to win with the way the SEC is going.... Forcing your defense to have to go out 12 games in a row and require them to play lights out every game is not possible.
Correct most teams avg 28 ppg.
 
With all the frick and frat on here one thing is sure, our QB play has got to get better. I hope everybody pushes everybody, but I am all for who wins the job outright. It's too early to anoint anyone the starter yet and that is fine and a good thing. I think it will only help JG to get pushed, and even if he is the backup next year he may be needed and I think it will only make him better. Maurer and Shrout should only get better in time as they are younger and of course Bailey hopefully makes a early positive addition to our team. Nobody should feel like the job is their at this point. And the good thing is the only people having problems with the qb's is the fans. I doubt any of us could have handled the situation better than Pruitt did. The players don't seem to be having a problem with each other unlike the fans on both sides of the coin. At times I myself have been critical of JG with good reason, no because I dislike him I actually like him now more than ever. But I won't look away from their mistakes either, none of the qb's. In short I am saying time and talent and workouts will eventually settle our qb situation and in the long run it will work itself out. I like our depth going into 2020. GBO!!!!
 
With all the frick and frat on here one thing is sure, our QB play has got to get better. I hope everybody pushes everybody, but I am all for who wins the job outright. It's too early to anoint anyone the starter yet and that is fine and a good thing. I think it will only help JG to get pushed, and even if he is the backup next year he may be needed and I think it will only make him better. Maurer and Shrout should only get better in time as they are younger and of course Bailey hopefully makes a early positive addition to our team. Nobody should feel like the job is their at this point. And the good thing is the only people having problems with the qb's is the fans. I doubt any of us could have handled the situation better than Pruitt did. The players don't seem to be having a problem with each other unlike the fans on both sides of the coin. At times I myself have been critical of JG with good reason, no because I dislike him I actually like him now more than ever. But I won't look away from their mistakes either, none of the qb's. In short I am saying time and talent and workouts will eventually settle our qb situation and in the long run it will work itself out. I like our depth going into 2020. GBO!!!!
Our QB room is a positive going into spring practice and it's because of all the guys, including JG.
 
Tennessee should have to score a lot of points and not rely on defense to anchor the team game in and game out......

At the end of the day, you have to be able to score to win with the way the SEC is going.... Forcing your defense to have to go out 12 games in a row and require them to play lights out every game is not possible.
Newsflash, wins are usually team driven and it's not uncommon for a successful team to rely on their defense to win games. The best scoring defense in the country is about to play for the national championship. There are different ways to get there and Pruitt seems to like the aggressive defense, conservative offensive style. Some of you want it all now even though we are coming off our 2 worst seasons ever. Pruitt's philosophy matches Fulmer's to a tee and I'm all for it. All you we should score 40 every game guys should go pull for the big12 teams, you'll see pretty quickly why defensive minded coaches win championships.
 
Tennessee should have to score a lot of points and not rely on defense to anchor the team game in and game out......

At the end of the day, you have to be able to score to win with the way the SEC is going.... Forcing your defense to have to go out 12 games in a row and require them to play lights out every game is not possible.

Name the starting SEC QB, who has had success, and had 4 different OCs during their starting tenure.
 
Well, starting next year JG is out of excuses...as are his staunchest advocates. So we'll see.

No, wait...new WR's. Not his fault.

Go Vols.
 
And each year there has been a different OC with a different offensive scheme. Let's hope we keep this OC and the bulk of the staff on that side of the ball next year. The inconsistencies have not been just at QB .. but with the OL and other key positions on that side of the ball.

As for scoring output - some offensive game plans are not meant to score a lot of points - so quit comparing what Tennessee does to the teams that MUST SCORE a lot of points because their defense is really bad.
Not to mention how bad the 1st year OCs were 2-4 years ago. Pruitt has done a 180 with the staff, lots of quality coaching going on in Knoxville these days I feel.
 
See i thought that was strange. Because it was like as soon as JG was replaced. We started hearing how accurately BM and JT were throwing. Then went JG was starting again it was all JG and everyone else sucked. Doesnt make sense at all
That’s because the practice reports were never completely true to begin with. And also why they are closed to the public. I’ve tried to tell people this many times but of coarse they thought I was being partial to BM. What I seen was exactly what we’ve all seen on the field through the season. JG made the safest decisions but Maurer was the most accurate and explosive. JTS was much better than advertised as well but when he was off he was usually missing high (which is worse than missing low). It’s funny how I said all this last spring and it played out on the field just as I observed and I’m still being criticized. But whatever.... it is what it is.
 
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True value of a Qb is consistency. Thanks for providing details about JG’s appalling lack of consistency when compared to JG.
Nobody has ever said JG was consistent, lots have said he was much more consistent with his decision making than everybody else on the roster playing QB though.
 
2.5 years of starting and he hasn't made significant jumps in production stats.

2.5 years with the mostly same receivers and he hasn't improved in production.

2.5 years of starting and has only scored more than 24 points against P5 teams just 4 times.

You could make the argument if he had no consistency with the receivers around him, but he literally has had 20+ games with our top 4 guys and somehow couldn't be consistently good and increase his averages.

After 2.5 years of tape and record keeping, its clear he hasn't and won't produce in a way that leads to consistent winning without the defense anchoring the team.

And once again, you are putting JG on a pedestal in saying he isn't subject to the basic stats and record keeping that every other player in football history is. Truly amazing that this is done for a career 9-16 starter who has never averaged over 200 yards per game passing in a season and 2 passing touchdowns per game..... Truly amazing!
He's improved statistically every season, his development is just fine and is on par with the rest of the team.
 
Why do you not care what the stats say? Go look at the conference stats as a whole and I think you'll see that only a few teams in the SEC currently possess the QB play we are all yearning for. You'll also find out that after the top 4 or 5 guys JG matches up very favorably with the rest of the pack. BM got to start 4 games this year, a 1/3 of the season basically and he could not get it done. We dropped 2 games we probably should not have and JG along with numerous other factors played a role in those losses, other than that, we won every single other game we should have won this season and JG played a role in every one of them. You can't see that Maurer has a higher ceiling, that's pure speculation, his stats show he's terrible at decision making so his ceiling could actually be lower if he can't get that fixed, his past and current twitter drama is not helping his cause any either. I'm disgusted we didn't win 10 games this year as well but putting all of that on JG is shameful I feel.
No kidding, these guys think QB2 and QB3 just sit on the sidelines and watch during practice every day.

So you wanna care about Maurer and his twitter drama but want to ignore when JG digs us holes in games. That makes so much sense. I hate to tell you but these are immature kids. They are going to have drama. As long as it’s not threatening to kill cops, I could give a damn less about the drama they’re involved in. However, you should care when JG puts us behind the 8 ball nearly every game. I could care less about your hard on for misleading stats and stats that you like to pick and choose. Wanna know my favorite stat? It’s called the eyeball stat. I have eyeballs and JG is not a serviceable SEC QB if we want to compete. Simple as that. You sit and get tight pants over numbers and percentages all you want.

And as to the practicing with 1st team vs. other teams. You two have never played a team sport in your life if you think it’s the same. It’s actually everything, especially in football. Simple things such as the center to QB exchange. Complicated things such as receiver routes and timing. The best teams have relationships they have built through reps together, learning each other, learning timing. You don’t even belong in a football forum if you think someone, a QB of all positions doesn’t benefit or be held back based on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team reps. That claim is just stunning. One of the best I’ve seen here yet.
 
If there was any real favoritism towards JG there'd have been a lot more turmoil on this team and many more losses. The team wouldn't have been bought in and rallying for closely fought hard scrabble wins like they did. The kind of results we saw with a Butch Jones lead team where collapse was certain is what happens when coaches play favorites. There was no favoritism here. It's kind of silly for a biased outsider to say there was unparalleled favoritism the likes of which has never been seen based off out of context coach speak media snippets.
 
See i thought that was strange. Because it was like as soon as JG was replaced. We started hearing how accurately BM and JT were throwing. Then went JG was starting again it was all JG and everyone else sucked. Doesnt make sense at all
Accuracy wasn’t the biggest issue with BM or JT(but JT was awful his first series) it was decision making. Making the wrong throw accurately is usually worse than the right throw inaccurate.
 
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He's improved statistically every season, his development is just fine and is on par with the rest of the team.

His improvement is the equal to a political poll having a margin of error +/-

Even when he increased in yards and TD’s, his interception and school record completion percentage dropped.

His improvement, while minimal, is literally nothing that shows he took a massive leap forward in his development.

As it’s been mentioned, than goodness we have a highly touted recruit joining 3 experienced QB’s in the QB room
 
Well, starting next year JG is out of excuses...as are his staunchest advocates. So we'll see.

No, wait...new WR's. Not his fault.

Go Vols.
Yes, we will see. Everyone moaning about JG now are the same ones that said we would never beat UAB, SC, MIZZ, KY, Vandy or Indiana if JG played yet somehow we did. If we somehow beat Ok and FL early next year with JG playing QB what excuses will the neverJG crowd have then?
 
Accuracy wasn’t the biggest issue with BM or JT(but JT was awful his first series) it was decision making. Making the wrong throw accurately is usually worse than the right throw inaccurate.
I guess CJP thought that knowing JGs limitations were a better option then seeing JT or BM develop
 
Accuracy wasn’t the biggest issue with BM or JT(but JT was awful his first series) it was decision making. Making the wrong throw accurately is usually worse than the right throw inaccurate.
BM making bad decisions is what kept JG on the field. If he fixes that in the off season the battle for QB1 will be between BM and HB.
 
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Yes, we will see. Everyone moaning about JG now are the same ones that said we would never beat UAB, SC, MIZZ, KY, Vandy or Indiana if JG played yet somehow we did. If we somehow beat Ok and FL early next year with JG playing QB what excuses will the neverJG crowd have then?
His latest social media post would leave one to believe he is contemplating transferring so we may never know the answer to that question.
 
Correct most teams avg 28 ppg.

That doesn't imply that a team needs to score 29 points in each game to win. Let's look at some stats:

- Florida only needed to score > 28 in 2 of it's games to win.
- Georgia only needed to score > 28 in one game against LSU; It would have only taken 21 for them to beat SC and they no doubt would have still been in the CPF playoffs with only 1 loss
- Alabama needed to score > 28 in 4 games
- Ohio State needed to score > 28 in only 1 game, that was against Clemson
- Clemson could have scored 28 points and won every game; They actually could have scored just 24 points and won every game
- Oklahoma needed to score > 28 points in 5 games and in some of them a lot more

Yes there are some conferences where defense does not really exist so you see these wild and wacky offensive games where generally the last team with the ball wins. But in the SEC, generally the teams with the best defense wins more games.
 
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His latest social media post would leave one to believe he is contemplating transferring so we may never know the answer to that question.

I hope he stays but would not blame him if he left. The stupidity of some in our fan base has more than likely taken a huge toll on him and his family.

Hopefully the defense continues to improve - as I believe we are going to need it more than ever next year.
 
So you wanna care about Maurer and his twitter drama but want to ignore when JG digs us holes in games. That makes so much sense. I hate to tell you but these are immature kids. They are going to have drama. As long as it’s not threatening to kill cops, I could give a damn less about the drama they’re involved in. However, you should care when JG puts us behind the 8 ball nearly every game. I could care less about your hard on for misleading stats and stats that you like to pick and choose. Wanna know my favorite stat? It’s called the eyeball stat. I have eyeballs and JG is not a serviceable SEC QB if we want to compete. Simple as that. You sit and get tight pants over numbers and percentages all you want.

And as to the practicing with 1st team vs. other teams. You two have never played a team sport in your life if you think it’s the same. It’s actually everything, especially in football. Simple things such as the center to QB exchange. Complicated things such as receiver routes and timing. The best teams have relationships they have built through reps together, learning each other, learning timing. You don’t even belong in a football forum if you think someone, a QB of all positions doesn’t benefit or be held back based on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team reps. That claim is just stunning. One of the best I’ve seen here yet.
We went 5-3 in conference games this season after coming off our worst 2 years, he was more than serviceable in the league. If he were as bad as you make it sound we would have gone 0-8 this year in SEC play. It's a stupid statement to say JG is not an SEC QB when the team went 5-3 in the toughest conference in the country and his stats, whether you like them or not were definitely top half in the SEC this year. The neverJG crowd can continue to moan about stats not meaning anything I could care less as I see EVERY SINGLE PROFESSIONAL TEAM IN EVERY SINGLE SPORT paying big money to analytics experts. Only people that hate stats are either dumb at math, have a son or daughter that sucks statistically in their respective sport or an ex high school player that thinks he should have got to play more even though his stats sucked. Production is everything in sports, JG produced better than any QB on our roster this season, not by a little but by a bunch.
 
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