JG just can’t play good

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whodeycin85 said:
But turnovers against Ga st and BYU did. And FLA for sure but when it goes against your story. It doesnt matter then...
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Yes, those losses are included in JGs evaluation this year, keep up as we've gone over the 2 early season losses a million times. We lost 2 games this year we probably shouldn't have lost to and he won 8 games this year, only a few of which we were favored to win with JG at the helm. Lots of donkeys on this board stated we couldn't win vs SC, Mizz and Ky with JG playing and are saying the same thing about next season, they were wrong then and are wrong now I believe.
 
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1vol8 said:
Exactly. We didn’t adjust where they did. Possibly because BM doesn’t know enough of the playbook to make said adjustments but to me it was a sign of future potential being much more competitive with a team like that than in the recent past. Have we ever been down only 2 scores in the 4th vs UGA with JG at the wheel? I’m not sure but it just felt different.
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It was 24-12 in the 4th quarter vs Ga in 2018, so yeah it's happened before. Lol, felt different though I guess, what a f'ing joke.
 
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1vol8 said:
Understood. But my point was we were in the game. In the past with JG at qb it was 3 and out quite often and the inability to stop them from scoring at any given moment and the boat race was on by halftime.
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Another false JG evaluation of play by BMs biggest fan.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Ridiculous, neither Maurer, JT or Jennings did anything of value at QB to contribute to a single win this season. JT would be the only one that really contributed outside of Guarantano and that was on such a small scale. None of the 3 made a single winning play that actually contributed to the win other than what little production JT had at SC and the 5 positive plays Maurer had vs Ms St.
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Once again, the record is what the record is.

There is no exception to record keeping in the case of a player or another. Like I said, it is truly amazing how captivating one player is that he is not judged by the same stats and record keeping that virtually every other player is the history of football is.....

Truly amazing.
 
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Jake Fromm and his QB ratings from this season. Once again you saying what you just said is the exact opposite of what actually happens.
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JMSqb11 said:
Once again, the record is what the record is.

There is no exception to record keeping in the case of a player or another. Like I said, it is truly amazing how captivating one player is that he is not judged by the same stats and record keeping that virtually every other player is the history of football is.....

Truly amazing.
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Yet you completely throw out how his stats rank vs the other QBs in the league. You tout his yards per game like it's his fault our offensive philosophy is not passing the ball as much as others and that's a simple math equation as well. How many QBs in the SEC average more than 200 per game? You are terrible at football strategy if you think for a second that we won any games based on the QB play of Jennings, JT and Maurer, what a croc of crap.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Yes, those losses are included in JGs evaluation this year, keep up as we've gone over the 2 early season losses a million times. We lost 2 games this year we probably shouldn't have lost to and he won 8 games this year, only a few of which we were favored to win with JG at the helm. Lots of donkeys on this board stated we couldn't win vs SC, Mizz and Ky with JG playing and are saying the same thing about next season, they were wrong then and are wrong now I believe.
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Stop. He didn't.
 
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This is so wrong it's pathetic. Jake Fromm's QB ratings are nearly identical to JGs and they won the East just this year. You guys should check out some data before making false statements.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Stop. He didn't.
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If that's the case then he didn't lose any games either, you can't have it both ways by saying he lost the Ga St and BYU games solely because of his play if you aren't going to give him wins based off his play. The neverJG crowd has always been wrong.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
So now we have to change this statistic to fit your narrative. NO. the true median for an average QB at QBR is 50 ..6 times JG did not reach average quarterback play.
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whodeycin85 said:
So now we have to change this statistic to fit your narrative. NO. the true median for an average QB at QBR is 50 ..6 times JG did not reach average quarterback play.
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Their end of year ratings are almost identical, in math that tells me that their averages are almost identical. You suck at math. 2+2=4, always has and always will.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Yet you completely throw out how his stats rank vs the other QBs in the league. You tout his yards per game like it's his fault our offensive philosophy is not passing the ball as much as others and that's a simple math equation as well. How many QBs in the SEC average more than 200 per game? You are terrible at football strategy if you think for a second that we won any games based on the QB play of Jennings, JT and Maurer, what a croc of crap.
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2.5 years of starting and he hasn't made significant jumps in production stats.

2.5 years with the mostly same receivers and he hasn't improved in production.

2.5 years of starting and has only scored more than 24 points against P5 teams just 4 times.

You could make the argument if he had no consistency with the receivers around him, but he literally has had 20+ games with our top 4 guys and somehow couldn't be consistently good and increase his averages.

After 2.5 years of tape and record keeping, its clear he hasn't and won't produce in a way that leads to consistent winning without the defense anchoring the team.

And once again, you are putting JG on a pedestal in saying he isn't subject to the basic stats and record keeping that every other player in football history is. Truly amazing that this is done for a career 9-16 starter who has never averaged over 200 yards per game passing in a season and 2 passing touchdowns per game..... Truly amazing!
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Their end of year ratings are almost identical, in math that tells me that their averages are almost identical. You suck at math. 2+2=4, always has and always will.
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True value of a Qb is consistency. Thanks for providing details about JG’s appalling lack of consistency when compared to JG.
 
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Here is something that has got me thinking. Its got to be difficult as a HC. You practice day in and day out during the Spring, Summer and Fall. You get to see your players strengths and weaknesses on a daily basis. Now onto JG.

From pretty much every practice report we got access to, JG out performed both Maurer and Shrout on a consistent basis. Now if you are Pruitt, how do you say to yourself, well the guys who are doing worse in practice are the better options? That seems like a very irrational way to go about it. I mean how often do you think a guy who cannot really do that well in practice can just do THAT much better in regular game time?

I am glad I am not a HC.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Once again, the record is what the record is.

There is no exception to record keeping in the case of a player or another. Like I said, it is truly amazing how captivating one player is that he is not judged by the same stats and record keeping that virtually every other player is the history of football is.....

Truly amazing.
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Whats even more amazing, and equally dumb, is those who continue to utilize the statement "a QBs starting record" as some sort of stat. The center touches the ball just as much as the QB and is almost just as important. Yet do we say what the starting centers record is? No.

We need to stop with the QB record as a starter BS. Especially when the ultimate success/failure of a QB also includes 10 other guys.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Whats even more amazing, and equally dumb, is those who continue to utilize the statement "a QBs starting record" as some sort of stat. The center touches the ball just as much as the QB and is almost just as important. Yet do we say what the starting centers record is? No.

We need to stop with the QB record as a starter BS. Especially when the ultimate success/failure of a QB also includes 10 other guys.
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Crazy that it is a "bs" stat so much that literally ever media network, every QB award ceremony like the Heisman, and NFL draft and scouts and NFL coaches all tout starting records as achievements, stats, and records......

But the entire world is oblivious to the fact and we here on Rocky Top know the truth and are outing the conspiracy.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Here is something that has got me thinking. Its got to be difficult as a HC. You practice day in and day out during the Spring, Summer and Fall. You get to see your players strengths and weaknesses on a daily basis. Now onto JG.

From pretty much every practice report we got access to, JG out performed both Maurer and Shrout on a consistent basis. Now if you are Pruitt, how do you say to yourself, well the guys who are doing worse in practice are the better options? That seems like a very irrational way to go about it. I mean how often do you think a guy who cannot really do that well in practice can just do THAT much better in regular game time?

I am glad I am not a HC.
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See i thought that was strange. Because it was like as soon as JG was replaced. We started hearing how accurately BM and JT were throwing. Then went JG was starting again it was all JG and everyone else sucked. Doesnt make sense at all
 
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whodeycin85 said:
See i thought that was strange. Because it was like as soon as JG was replaced. We started hearing how accurately BM and JT were throwing. Then went JG was starting again it was all JG and everyone else sucked. Doesnt make sense at all
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Coach speak to protect fragile egos.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
It has to be something. I watched the spring game to see if JG was different then...and he wasnt. He was exactly the same...JT looked better and should have gotten more play time
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JG's best game all year was the Spring game though...
 
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