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Really not understanding the hate for Trevor Lawrence. He got killed out there the other night and still won the game for Clemson. For a guy that looks like he should be such a pretty boy who has been on a front-running team that has just been better than everyone else they've played until Saturday, he showed a lot of toughness and competitive spirit getting up off the mat and leading his team to victory. Or maybe the latter part is what makes people hate him that much more.
 
Keywords in that post was “good teams”. JG gives us a ceiling. Do you honestly think he’s got the game to take us to 8,9, or 10 wins despite losing his top 3 pass catchers? Honestly?
Throw out some names that are worth those extra 3 wins...and why they’re leaving their current school.
 
I don’t think we’re at a point in our program where we can waste spots on a long shot. If there’s a special QB that’s leaving another school I have to wonder about the reason. We actually considered Minshew and I was all for it at the time. We also took George and Brandon Davis in that class. Different points. If there’s a clear homerun QB that wants to sign on, then the coaches might jump. Doubt they take a flyer on a long shot.


I just think the position in itself has so much turnover and the transfer portal has proven to an unbelievable resource as well as grad transfers.

At the very worst you’re getting someone who brings in experience and can help your other qbs in the film room and practice field.

At best you could get one of the good ones that have popped up in recent years like mayfield, minshew, burrow, Eason, fields, Murray etc.
 
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Throw out some names that are worth those extra 3 wins...and why they’re leaving their current school.

Burrow, fields, minshew, Murray just to make a few. No one knew who minshew was. Fields was looked at as a pouting baby who couldn’t beat out fromm,
 
Keywords in that post was “good teams”. JG gives us a ceiling. Do you honestly think he’s got the game to take us to 8,9, or 10 wins despite losing his top 3 pass catchers? Honestly?

Considering we're a game from winning 8 -this- year I 100% think we can win that many next season. He played well enough against BYU & Georgia State that we shouldn't have lost those games either. And last year he played well enough we should have won @ South Carolina. If you got a QB that throws for 60% + and doesn't turn the ball over that's a lot better than average and good enough that you should win most games if you have any sort of rushing attack (which we haven't found just yet in the Pruitt era) or solid defensive play (finally got that this season).

You're hanging on a single half of play by Maurer in 50% of his production came on the opening pass when Georgia blew the coverage...
 
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We need a QB. Most likely We’re going to lose at least one of the QBs that played last year. Kasim hill is a fullback.

So that leaves you with some combination of:

-Mediocre at best JG
-injury prone but promising BM
-Shrout Coaches don’t want
- True freshman

Do we really need another DB or DT? Lol
Pass rusher... Biggest need. We don't "need"another qb.
 
Burrow, fields, minshew, Murray just to make a few. No one knew who minshew was. Fields was looked at as a pouting baby who couldn’t beat out fromm,

Oh nice, those guys are grad transfers this year? Awesome, I'll help them unpack their bags then once they get to Knoxville.

Minshew is a terrible example btw, he went to Mike Leach at Washington State and did what literally ever QB to ever play a season with Mike Leach does.
 
Burrow, fields, minshew, Murray just to make a few. No one knew who minshew was. Fields was looked at as a pouting baby who couldn’t beat out fromm,
I’m talking CURRENTLY. Not ones you can go back and revisionist second guess. What hot shot QB is stuck behind another and is eligible to GT? Once again if there’s truly a special case, I trust the coaches to explore the possibilities. Really don’t believe they’re reserving the spot. Chryst was a needed depth move and Pruitt still regrets that decision imo. Minshew went with the Mad Passing Scientist and did well for himself...just like the guy who replaced him. Not every Graham Harrell works for every program.
 
Burrow, fields, minshew, Murray just to make a few. No one knew who minshew was. Fields was looked at as a pouting baby who couldn’t beat out fromm,

Fields was also a former #1 player overall from his recruiting class. Murray was a 5 star and the #1 dual threat QB in the nation. If any of those are knocking on our door, I'm happy to take them.
 
We need a QB. Most likely We’re going to lose at least one of the QBs that played last year. Kasim hill is a fullback.

So that leaves you with some combination of:

-Mediocre at best JG
-injury prone but promising BM
-Shrout Coaches don’t want
- True freshman

Do we really need another DB or DT? Lol
This is what I’m saying. I just disagree with the people who think we’re good to go with Guarantano at QB. Give him credit for turning his season around, but I’m still not that confident he can be what we need consistently. There’s a reason why Pruitt and Chaney are kicking the tires with the idea.
 
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We lose to KY if we keep playing him and might lose to MSST with how he was playing in the red zone. Plus in the GA game he didn’t complete a pass in the third quarter which took us out of the game. I didn’t see a lot of promise other than his passion on the field. Wish we had recruited Sam Howell
He was still coming back from injury and was a true freshmen who needed a year to redshirt and get bigger. Offense actually moved with him and we never score without him against UGA. JG struggled against every good defense he played. A year to get bigger and learn from Chaney and you don’t think he can make a big leap? You can see his promise and arm talent. Didn’t you say Hilinski was the best freshmen QB at one point as well?
 
This is what I’m saying. I just disagree with the people who think we’re good to go with Guarantano at QB. Give him credit for turning his season around, but I’m still not that confident he can be what we need consistently. There’s a reason why Pruitt and Chaney are kicking the tires with the idea.
Say it louder for the ppl in the back.
 
Oh nice, those guys are grad transfers this year? Awesome, I'll help them unpack their bags then once they get to Knoxville.

Minshew is a terrible example btw, he went to Mike Leach at Washington State and did what literally ever QB to ever play a season with Mike Leach does.
He won 11 games at wazzou. Is that their best season ever? He also just threw for 3,000 yards in the league.
 
He was still coming back from injury and was a true freshmen who needed a year to redshirt and get bigger. Offense actually moved with him and we never score without him against UGA. JG struggled against every good defense he played. A year to get bigger and learn from Chaney and you don’t think he can make a big leap? You can see his promise and arm talent. Didn’t you say Hilinski was the best freshmen QB at one point as well?
I thought hilinski would be the best coming into the year. Played through most of the season with a bum knee. He led his team to a win on the road at UGA. Maurer got blown out at home by GA.

I think maurer could be ok in time but I just don’t get the love for him. He got benched against KY because he was making terrible reads on RPO. I also think he would’ve gotten benched against MSST if he hadn’t gotten hurt. When JG stays calm and plays with confidence he can help us beat anyone
 
Really not understanding the hate for Trevor Lawrence. He got killed out there the other night and still won the game for Clemson. For a guy that looks like he should be such a pretty boy who has been on a front-running team that has just been better than everyone else they've played until Saturday, he showed a lot of toughness and competitive spirit getting up off the mat and leading his team to victory. Or maybe the latter part is what makes people hate him that much more.
Nailed it. It’s the latter. If you haven’t noticed, any opposing player or coach that experiences a good deal of success, is deemed a scumbag, douche canoe, cheater, etc. They hate em’ cause they ain’t em’.
 
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Russell Wilson was "can't miss" and anyone with a brain wanted him, he's the closest thing to winning the lottery to ever hit the transfer portal. Dude left NC State with 8500 yards and 76 TDs in just 3 seasons there. If there's a Wilson on the market then I absolutely take him, but the point is there isn't that guy in the transfer portal RIGHT NOW.

I mean unless I'm really overlooking someone the transfer portal right now simply does not have that guy.
 
This is what I’m saying. I just disagree with the people who think we’re good to go with Guarantano at QB. Give him credit for turning his season around, but I’m still not that confident he can be what we need consistently. There’s a reason why Pruitt and Chaney are kicking the tires with the idea.

You're also the only one that's said they were kicking the tires with the idea...you didn't even share a source to back-up the claim you made.
 
I thought hilinski would be the best coming into the year. Played through most of the season with a bum knee. He led his team to a win on the road at UGA. Maurer got blown out at home by GA.

I think maurer could be ok in time but I just don’t get the love for him. He got benched against KY because he was making terrible reads on RPO. I also think he would’ve gotten benched against MSST if he hadn’t gotten hurt. When JG stays calm and plays with confidence he can help us beat anyone
I don’t know what you have against him but we don’t score a single touchdown against UGA without him. JG is bad against good defenses, turn on the UF game for one. JG has never beat a really good team. I wouldn’t say Hilinski led them to the win. Pick six and Georgia having their worst game of the year led to that win. Maurer is a true freshmen who was 150 pounds soaking wet. He needed a redshirt year. Not every QB is ready day one and you can see a lot of promise in Maurer.
 
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