This why Kirby doesn’t scare me.

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The Original Fade said:
Fromm’s QB rating in his 3 years at UGA are 160, 171, and 139.
Eason’s QB rating the last 3 years are 120, 90, and 143. Advantage Fromm
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If you were a NFL GM would you select Fromm over Eason? Put Fromm in UW this season and they win 4 games. I really hope Fromm comes out for the draft to see where they both go. I think Fromm will stay, if he does that says it all.
 
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cgrish said:
You may want to consider what Clemson did last year and won the nc. They changed qb. The qb they replaced took them to the nc game. If any player can play better they should play. It paid off for Clemson last year.
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They changed QB's because they had to with injury. There is zero reason to suggest that Eason coming back from Injury would do anything that Fromm couldn't his freshmen year.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Eason can do things that Fromm most every other qb can’t. He’s a playmaker that can carry a team. I believe he’s the best NFL qb prospect in the country. Better than Tua and Lawrence.
I also believe UGA win 2 Nattys maybe three in a row with Eason at qb. Should have been the starter as soon as he was healthy, Kirby screwed up, twice if you consider Fields. And it’s gonna bite the dogs for another couple years.
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So much a playmaker that Eason tore it up in the Pac 12.
 
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madbamahater said:
So, him routinely beating Tennessee decisively does not scare you?
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routinely? strong words, the truth of the matter is, the SEC has very capable Head coaches, recruiting is relative, development is the key. This game is not about one player, it's about a team on both sides of the ball. Defense doesn't win every game. I believe Pruitt was smart enough to know that hiring Chaney would shore up his lack of knowledge of executing an offense. You only have to look at UGA's offense this year and surmise they miss Chaney.

Go Vols!!
 
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rikberry31 said:
Eason struggles when he doesn’t get protection. UW’s o-line was brand new this year. UGA could have protected him and he would have lit it up. Stats and records don’t tell the story. For those understands and who can see beyond the numbers, Eason is an NFL qb and much more talented than Fromm.
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Every QB struggles when they don’t get protection. The bottom line is Eason is nowhere near as good as you’re making him out to be. Fromm did better than Eason with the same tools Eason had. There’s no way to tell what Eason would’ve done if he didn’t get hurt, but we do know Fromm came in and had a better season than Eason did the year prior. There’s more to being a QB than arm strength, which is why Fromm won more games than Eason.
 
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Smokeyone said:
The moved from a traditional passing game to the QBs job was to hand the ball off. Not really comparable, not really something Fromm gets credit for.
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Fromm made plenty of adjustments at the line of scrimmage. I’d say getting out of a bad play and into a good one is a good quality for a QB to have. Also, Eason also had Michel and Chubb in the backfield his freshman year and didn’t get very far with them.
 
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Samthebam said:
It’s hard to predict how anyone will play in the future. As much as I like Pruitt - and I do - he will no doubt go with the wrong guy at times as well. Good argument that he did that with Guarantano at various points over the past 2 years.
As long as Kirby recruits to the level that he has been, he scares me.
We just need to win more games progressively over the next couple of seasons so that we recruit better and then ours can better compete with theirs. Pruitt does seem to be doing a good job of having them ready, most of the time.
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well, it could be a good argument that Coach Pruitt made a good decision by sticking by JG also, even after his bad start, and of course, with BM's head issues...we wouldn't be in a bowl game without JG...you go to war with the Army you have...somebody said that...:D

GO BIG ORANGE...BEAT THE HOOSIERS!
 
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sjt18 said:
Yea. Sorry. I read the wrong line.
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All good man. Smart started in a different spot at UGA than Pruitt at UT. 2020 or 2021 should be when Pruitt makes his moves on UGA, UF, and Bama. He’ll have his QB of the future in Bailey and the defense completely retooled and ready to go.
 
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I don't care for Smart's personality. But he's a very good coach and sits in one of the most favorable recruiting situations in all of college football. I think Pruitt is a better "coach of the game".... but Smart will not be an easy out for anyone.
 
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SpookyAction said:
The premise of this thread is silly.
Kirby will always recruit well and be at the top of the division. I look forward to having a heavyweight puncher's duel every year for the division crown.
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Richt did similarly. Everyone is terrified of Kirby’s recruiting. Recruiting classes should not be judged on signing day, they should be judged on draft day.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't care for Smart's personality. But he's a very good coach and sits in one of the most favorable recruiting situations in all of college football. I think Pruitt is a better "coach of the game".... but Smart will not be an easy out for anyone.
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I actually think Smart and Pruitt are very similar. Both are elite defensive minds and elite recruiters. I think both need to follow Orgeron and upgrade their offense to become truly elite. Spread offenses have more snowball potential and bully ball just isn’t as effective as it once was. I could see Pruitt changing first since he’s hungrier than Smart.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
All good man. Smart started in a different spot at UGA than Pruitt at UT. 2020 or 2021 should be when Pruitt makes his moves on UGA, UF, and Bama. He’ll have his QB of the future in Bailey and the defense completely retooled and ready to go.
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I trust Chaney... but am a little nervous about personnel.

I really like where Pruitt is going with the D. The job they did with the DL this year was outstanding. To start with a group that had pretty much zero experience and to finish as well as they did in the last few games plus finish 2nd vs the SEC in sacks... is impressive.

The Vols were also 5th versus the SEC only 2 yds behind 4th in total D. I think he is upgrading D personnel across the board in recruiting as well.

The strategy seems obvious. He's building the D first.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
I actually think Smart and Pruitt are very similar. Both are elite defensive minds and elite recruiters. I think both need to follow Orgeron and upgrade their offense to become truly elite. Spread offenses have more snowball potential and bully ball just isn’t as effective as it once was. I could see Pruitt changing first since he’s hungrier than Smart.
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I don't think you have to choose between spread and "bully". Whatever you do, you just have to find and develop the right guys to execute it.

In my years of watching CFB, it is often the guy who zigs when everyone else zags that has success. D's are more and more tailored to defend the spread. Having a power run game now... might be very effective with the right personnel.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
So much a playmaker that Eason tore it up in the Pac 12.
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UW exceeded expectations this season. Lost o-line, lost top back, and their whole core. Fromm on that team would have fared much worse.
The difference: Fromm is a good qb and can light it up when he has a running game and play action is effective. When the team depends on his arm alone in obvious passing situations, not so much. He Is good with a running game and talented receivers who win contested throws.
Eason can throw in very tight windows, deep, with good coverage, to less talented receivers, and in obvious throwing situations.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Every QB struggles when they don’t get protection. The bottom line is Eason is nowhere near as good as you’re making him out to be. Fromm did better than Eason with the same tools Eason had. There’s no way to tell what Eason would’ve done if he didn’t get hurt, but we do know Fromm came in and had a better season than Eason did the year prior. There’s more to being a QB than arm strength, which is why Fromm won more games than Eason.
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If you were a NFL GM, who would take?
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Kirby has kicked our ass 3 years running now and will be favored again next year to win the East for the fourth straight season and is recruiting at a elite level. How does Kirby not scare you?
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Hate to say it but it appears that national media is already high on Florida. I will not be surprised if they pick FL to win the east next year. I think Kirby hit the pinnacle of his career two years ago in the NC, this year's team has regressed and the possibility of losing major pieces in their O-line in this year's draft doesn't help either. With Pittman gone and all the players he inherited gone, we will see how good Kirby is at developing his great recruiting classes. IMO Kirby's in-game play calling and coaching prowess leaves something to be desired.
 
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1SmokinVol said:
Hysterical post- OP is DEAD ON correct, Eason and Fields are better than Fromme. Eason is probably a better Pro Prospect if it was my pick- Fields is playing for a Natty- Fromme got his ass waxed and embarrassed in the championship game, much less lost to a horrible USCe team.
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As many of us know, Georgia is good for at least one choke a year. As for the bovine-canine hybrids vs. Panthera tigris tigris streak, the LSU defense was such that beat Bama too, though to be fair, the red algae bloom was without their number one QB. However, by the time they went up against Fromme, they'd played some good QBs so were ready. Ed does get his team game ready, they stumble like drunkards at times but often rise to the occasion. So Fromme's performance is no surprise given how LSU's defenders gave him the pre-2019 Jarrett Guarantano treatment during the game. I have a sneaking suspicion that though I think Georgia loses to Baylor, it will be a shootout, largely due to Fromme showing he's not as bad as you and others make him out to be. His Tim Tebow imitation, I call it. I think we'll see him running the ball effectively and a return of his not being afraid to either be hit or hit CBs and safeties.
 

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EODVOL said:
Hate to say it but it appears that national media is already high on Florida. I will not be surprised if they pick FL to win the east next year. I think Kirby hit the pinnacle of his career two years ago in the NC, this year's team has regressed and the possibility of losing major pieces in their O-line in this year's draft doesn't help either. With Pittman gone and all the players he inherited gone, we will see how good Kirby is at developing his great recruiting classes. IMO Kirby's in-game play calling and coaching prowess leaves something to be desired.
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Agree, I am much more worried about Florida compared to UGA, Smart like all other UGA football coaches can recruit, but just like all the others they havent won a NC since before i was born. This all comes with the fact they have like the most players in the NFL at this time or close to it with nothing to show for it. The only thing that matters at the end is whose left standing with NC rings on their fingers and UGA hasnt done that in 39 years. UF on the other hand has a coach that has shown he can win some games without elite talent, so him now being able to get elite talent worries me much more. I almost wished Cowboys would hire them and put them back to the drawing board on a new HC.
 
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