Trey Smith Quote

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hmhawk said:
I saw on the internet some time back that there is a player with Trey's condition in the NFL. Also seen an article that one has the same spinal disorder as our guy (can't recall name}. Didn't read either article but now I wish I had.
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The one fellow with the clots was starting with the Pats. He's currently on IR.
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Unfortunately for Trey Smith, I think you are correct. He does not have the respect at the NFL to not practice. He will start out towards the bottom of the totem pole and must work his way to the top. The only way to do this is through rigorous practice at a high level. Not sure if the NFL will feel confident Smith's system can take it without forming more blood clots. Fortunately, for Tennessee, I think Smith is more likely than not, to stay at Tennessee.

Of course, I am not Trey Smith's doctor, or even a doctor period, just my opinion from 500 miles away.
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I don't understand how this happens medically. If he exerts himself too much, how does that lead to blood clots in his lungs?
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Unfortunately for Trey Smith, I think you are correct. He does not have the respect at the NFL to not practice. He will start out towards the bottom of the totem pole and must work his way to the top. The only way to do this is through rigorous practice at a high level. Not sure if the NFL will feel confident Smith's system can take it without forming more blood clots. Fortunately, for Tennessee, I think Smith is more likely than not, to stay at Tennessee.

Of course, I am not Trey Smith's doctor, or even a doctor period, just my opinion from 500 miles away.
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I'm not sure I understand your logic. If he's been cleared to play at this level, why wouldn't he be cleared at the next ?! And as far as practicing, if I could draft a potential all-pro that could only practice a day or two a week ?! I'm all in. I'm sure everyone is pulling for him, I hope he leaves, he's earned the opportunity.
 
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Doctrippin said:
I don't understand how this happens medically. If he exerts himself too much, how does that lead to blood clots in his lungs?[/QUOTe. The clots form elsewhere in the body then go to the lungs hen they break loose. Trey has a hypercoagulable condition meaning he makes clots in his veins easier than most which is the problem.
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There is just so much money on the line, hard to think he will come back another year. I am wondering if he will even play in the bowl game.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
Umm JP has set Trey's practice schedule to almost identical NFL practice schedule. He will have very little adjustment.
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Yes, there will be more than a little adjustment from pro to college. Trey has made the Tennessee team, he doesn't need to earn a position. Therefore, a light NFL practice schedule it warranted, TN knows what Trey can do on the field. Do you think he will walk on an NFL field without having to prove in practice that he can play? I understand he will get lots of opportunities due to his high draft status but he will need to prove himself.
 
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Doctrippin said:
I don't understand how this happens medically. If he exerts himself too much, how does that lead to blood clots in his lungs?
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I am not sure and I am not a doctor but maybe? However, it has been reported multiple times that he is very limited to not practicing at all. I think its logical to think Tn limits his practice to maximize his health and ability to play on Saturday.
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
I am not sure and I am not a doctor but maybe? However, it has been reported multiple times that he is very limited to not practicing at all. I think its logical to think Tn limits his practice to maximize his health and ability to play on Saturday.
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Yeah I’m not a hematogolist by any stretch but 6 years ago I had clots show up in my lungs and I was totally asymptomatic. I was put on thinners and told to carry on as usual. (I had retired and was fairly active) My hematogolist told me activity never causes clots - it’s caused from inactivity. Of course Trey can’t practice while on a thinner regiment. So I don’t understand what’s going on totally with Trey either.
 
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DowsaTV said:
There is just so much money on the line, hard to think he will come back another year. I am wondering if he will even play in the bowl game.
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He said in his interview he was excited to play in his first bowl game and doesn’t care where it is. That being said we have had another guy that played for us that was a stone cold lock to be a top 10 pick, come back for his senior year. Both Trey and this guy are class acts and he might think he has unfinished business at UT. He said he came here to restore order. Never know! Money is hard to turn down, but sometimes there is more to life. Will be a tough decision for Trey!
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
I am not sure and I am not a doctor but maybe? However, it has been reported multiple times that he is very limited to not practicing at all. I think its logical to think Tn limits his practice to maximize his health and ability to play on Saturday.
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Once again it has been reported multiple times Trey performs all practice functions except heavy contact work.
 
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hmhawk said:
I saw on the internet some time back that there is a player with Trey's condition in the NFL. Also seen an article that one has the same spinal disorder as our guy (can't recall name}. Didn't read either article but now I wish I had.
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It was unknown at the time, but Earl Campbell had spinal stenosis also
 
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tennrich1 said:
Yeah I’m not a hematogolist by any stretch but 6 years ago I had clots show up in my lungs and I was totally asymptomatic. I was put on thinners and told to carry on as usual. (I had retired and was fairly active) My hematogolist told me activity never causes clots - it’s caused from inactivity. Of course Trey can’t practice while on a thinner regiment. So I don’t understand what’s going on totally with Trey either.
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I think what you're saying is that the amount of time spent with your heart beating at an aerobic level needs to be maximized.
 
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ALLVOL 4LIFE said:
He said in his interview he was excited to play in his first bowl game and doesn’t care where it is. That being said we have had another guy that played for us that was a stone cold lock to be a top 10 pick, come back for his senior year. Both Trey and this guy are class acts and he might think he has unfinished business at UT. He said he came here to restore order. Never know! Money is hard to turn down, but sometimes there is more to life. Will be a tough decision for Trey!
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Yeah agreed. But money is more than just hard to turn down. If his family is financially stable then an agent may not be able to change his mind. But these are lottery numbers we are talking about. The risk is big. Honestly, I thought it was a done deal, I just assumed he would be gone. I hope he stays!
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
Unfortunately for Trey Smith, I think you are correct. He does not have the respect at the NFL to not practice. He will start out towards the bottom of the totem pole and must work his way to the top. The only way to do this is through rigorous practice at a high level. Not sure if the NFL will feel confident Smith's system can take it without forming more blood clots. Fortunately, for Tennessee, I think Smith is more likely than not, to stay at Tennessee.

Of course, I am not Trey Smith's doctor, or even a doctor period, just my opinion from 500 miles away.
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I agree we love him at UT but in the NFL you are another guy.
Just think if a rookie comes in doesn't do 100% practice and starts over a veteran what does that do for the chemistry/psyche of the team. Love to see him do it but think he would have to come in with no practice restrictions and be continuously monitored by team Dr. or specialist.
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
I wish I had HIS problems!

My best to Trey. He is a treat to watch play.
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I would rather not have HIS problems. Blood clots are a serious, life threatening issue that could cause a sudden medical event. We aren't talking about gout, shingles or the common cold. Yes, money is important but I would not trade my health directly for money. No matter how much money it is. Remember, you can't take it with you...
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
I would rather not have HIS problems. Blood clots are a serious, life threatening issue that could cause a sudden medical event. We aren't talking about gout, shingles or the common cold. Yes, money is important but I would not trade my health directly for money. No matter how much money it is. Remember, you can't take it with you...
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Silliness. There is not one medical professional that has been brought forward who has examined Trey and is privy to his treatment plan that is on the p[ublic record anything he has done regarding football has endangered his life. Just complete and utter silliness.
 
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VFFL@THE BEACH said:
I would rather not have HIS problems. Blood clots are a serious, life threatening issue that could cause a sudden medical event. We aren't talking about gout, shingles or the common cold. Yes, money is important but I would not trade my health directly for money. No matter how much money it is. Remember, you can't take it with you...
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You're right. I didn't mean to minimize his challenges. It was coming from counting his blessings, his prospects, and having a great character. None of us are exempt from the challenges of life. And, I have personal experience with gout!
 
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tennrich1 said:
Yeah I’m not a hematogolist by any stretch but 6 years ago I had clots show up in my lungs and I was totally asymptomatic. I was put on thinners and told to carry on as usual. (I had retired and was fairly active) My hematogolist told me activity never causes clots - it’s caused from inactivity. Of course Trey can’t practice while on a thinner regiment. So I don’t understand what’s going on totally with Trey either.
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My understanding (based on nothing but what I have read/seen in the media) is that Trey does practice; he just doesn't get involved in contact drills or scrimmages. The reason being he is on (or was on) blood thinners and should he get cut it would be difficult to stop the bleeding and if he takes a hard hit it could possibly cause internal bleeding. They apparently manage his regimen going into game day to minimize his risk. Again, I have no first-hand knowledge, only amalgamation of media reports. Tennessee is okay with non-contact throughout the practice week. I think what some are asking is would an NFL team be as accommodating.
 
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Remy said:
Silliness. There is not one medical professional that has been brought forward who has examined Trey and is privy to his treatment plan that is on the p[ublic record anything he has done regarding football has endangered his life. Just complete and utter silliness.
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I agree, assumptions are silly. The most logical interpretation of your post implies that I have determined Trey's Smith football career are impacted by blood clots. I was not the person who diagnosed, nor advised him not to play football due to clots. However, It is not an assumption that Trey Smith did not play football due to blood clots.

Another silly assumption is that volnation forum is some sort of pseudo courtroom. Most of volnation is opinion, and if you don't like opinions or prefer just facts then I suggest you find a different place.

The post you responded to was my response to TennesseeTarheel who appeared to say that he would rather have money and deal with blood clots. I disagreed, stating that I would rather have my health or no blood cots than money. See above where TennesseeTarheel clarified his stance.
 
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1974Vol said:
My understanding (based on nothing but what I have read/seen in the media) is that Trey does practice; he just doesn't get involved in contact drills or scrimmages. The reason being he is on (or was on) blood thinners and should he get cut it would be difficult to stop the bleeding and if he takes a hard hit it could possibly cause internal bleeding. They apparently manage his regimen going into game day to minimize his risk. Again, I have no first-hand knowledge, only amalgamation of media reports. Tennessee is okay with non-contact throughout the practice week. I think what some are asking is would an NFL team be as accommodating.
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There has yet to be a media report of which I'm aware that you are revealing today. Per your quote, "The reason being he is on (or was on) blood thinners and should he get cut it would be difficult to stop the bleeding and if he takes a hard hit it could possibly cause internal bleeding." Not one word about Trey's treatment plan or the specific drugs IF ANY are involved during the season or off season have been made public. If you can provide them, do so via listed url, otherwise I request you recant this falsehood. Unless Trey or his physicians release this information you are promoting the world of fantasy. Most people I know associated with blood clots have speculated from their personal standpoint he does not take "blood thinners' during the season at all.
 
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1974Vol said:
My understanding (based on nothing but what I have read/seen in the media) is that Trey does practice; he just doesn't get involved in contact drills or scrimmages. The reason being he is on (or was on) blood thinners and should he get cut it would be difficult to stop the bleeding and if he takes a hard hit it could possibly cause internal bleeding. They apparently manage his regimen going into game day to minimize his risk. Again, I have no first-hand knowledge, only amalgamation of media reports. Tennessee is okay with non-contact throughout the practice week. I think what some are asking is would an NFL team be as accommodating.
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I think that's partly correct. Again I'm no medical expert but I think taking the thinners and then coming off them to play a game then back on them would still be a dangerous proposition. I know for sure that playing in an SEC game(especially where Trey plays what with all the mauling that goes on) and having the presences of blood thinners would be certainly beyond dangerous. I'm Thankful those controlling his protocol know more than I do though!
 
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