To Protect and to Serve II

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Rickyvol77 said:
If you have ever had someone run from you in a stolen car, drive into Lot A at Walter P, then run inside their cousin's apt to get a gun, you would know what i am talking about
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I can say that I have never had that happen to me but I have to ask, if a person is going to run WTH is stopping them regardless of where they are at?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
"most cops" :rolleyes: there are 4 million interactions between law enforcement and citizens, every year...i think you would be suprised at how probably 85% of them go
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So if 85% go well and 15% don't go well you're saying that it's okay that 600,000 people every year get harassed by the police? Maybe you'd like to volunteer to be on the receiving end?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
If you have ever had someone run from you in a stolen car, drive into Lot A at Walter P, then run inside their cousin's apt to get a gun, you would know what i am talking about
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Walter P Taylor homes, another victory for socialism in Tennessee. Knox county reaps what they sowed when they decided to build a "housing complex" for the poor and put thieves and drug dealers together into a concentrated pool.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Good luck with that. “Got any drugs or guns in the car, sir? Mind if I search your vehicle?”
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It all depends on what you look like and what you drive. If you're missing a tooth or two and you're driving a 97 Camry you're screwed. If you're well dressed and driving an expensive car, you're screwed. I think cops pigeon hole people into 2 categories, no money and probably guilty of something or plenty of money lets rape his ass.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Good luck with that. “Got any drugs or guns in the car, sir? Mind if I search your vehicle?”
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I've only been asked about guns once and yes I did have one and it was loaded, cop was cool about it even though there wasn't such a thing as CC then. I've never been asked about drugs but I'm a white guy.

Last time I was pulled over it was buy a 20something Barney and he decided to lecture me. I told him to shut it and write the ticket.
 
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hog88 said:
I've only been asked about guns once and yes I did have one and it was loaded, cop was cool about it even though there wasn't such a thing as CC then. I've never been asked about drugs but I'm a white guy.

Last time I was pulled over it was buy a 20something Barney and he decided to lecture me. I told him to shut it and write the ticket.
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I'm surprised he didn't call the drug dog that automatically "alerts" to anything you own and then you go to jail for a decade or more for drug dealing.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Good luck with that. “Got any drugs or guns in the car, sir? Mind if I search your vehicle?”
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I can't remember the last time I said that. Consent searches are so 90's now. If I smell something, see something, you say something, or the hair missile alerts, it makes all of those questions OBE. That's old crap from the Bob Vogel (Volusia County, FL) School of Drug Interdiction. The big loads are in different vehicles these days, anyway.

If I wanted to search your vehicle, DTH, it would just be to see what cool toys you had with you.

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VolStrom said:
I'm surprised he didn't call the drug dog that automatically "alerts" to anything you own and then you go to jail for a decade or more for drug dealing.
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He probably knew it wasn’t close by. I was talking to a friend of mine who had Michigan tags on his car. He was stopped on 40 here in Knoxville by the local drug task force. He didn’t consent to any searches, but they searched anyway and messed up his car. When they were finished, they didn’t have the decency to hand him his license, and instead left it in the car hidden in the mess they created. He was already stressed by the ordeal, but then more so when realizing he had to go back to them and ask for his license. He said they took a defensive posture like they were going to attack him and told him they gave it to him (which they didn’t actually) and to leave. He received no citation as they didn’t find anything (I doubt they had probable cause for anything they did).
 
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I will never accept the practice of pulling vehicles over for minor traffic violations or often, fabricated violations in a fishing attempt to find "something". Cops will say it works, but odds are, if you stop a million people for frivolous reasons, you're bound to find something eventually. This is an admitted and unashamed tactic for a lot of these departments. It's not pro active policing, it's a tactic to justify their payroll.

I'm not one of the folks saying police shouldn't exist, but **** like this makes it hard to trust and support them.
 
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VolStrom said:
So if 85% go well and 15% don't go well you're saying that it's okay that 600,000 people every year get harassed by the police? Maybe you'd like to volunteer to be on the receiving end?
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I didn’t say that the 15% that didn’t go well was harassment. Some are arrests. Some are citations. A very minor few are true harassment or police misconduct. I’ve been pulled over by police before. Never had an issue. I was speeding twice and once the police pulled me over bc a car matching mine had just been stolen. I never had any issues and cooperated bc I understood
 
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VolStrom said:
Walter P Taylor homes, another victory for socialism in Tennessee. Knox county reaps what they sowed when they decided to build a "housing complex" for the poor and put thieves and drug dealers together into a concentrated pool.
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You are correct. Section 8 housing in Knoxville has about 10% true elderly and poor families that need it and the rest are gangbangers, criminals, addicts and mentally ill
 
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VolStrom said:
I'm surprised he didn't call the drug dog that automatically "alerts" to anything you own and then you go to jail for a decade or more for drug dealing.
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little over dramatic? K9s keep records to show the positive alerts so they can’t be used that way and even if they were not on is sent to jail for a decade for a false K9 hit if nothing is found
 
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MercyPercy said:
I will never accept the practice of pulling vehicles over for minor traffic violations or often, fabricated violations in a fishing attempt to find "something". Cops will say it works, but odds are, if you stop a million people for frivolous reasons, you're bound to find something eventually. This is an admitted and unashamed tactic for a lot of these departments. It's not pro active policing, it's a tactic to justify their payroll.

I'm not one of the folks saying police shouldn't exist, but **** like this makes it hard to trust and support them.
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1st one to call when kids speed through your neighborhood
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
"most cops" :rolleyes: there are 4 million interactions between law enforcement and citizens, every year...i think you would be suprised at how probably 85% of them go
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I would guess that half of them end up with the 'roid raged, "respect my authortay", ignorant of the law, chip on their shoulder cop that runs the civilian through all kinds of hassles or arrogant attitude over the pettiest of infractions. 50%...
Not all interactions necessarily

end up on Youtube.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I can't remember the last time I said that. Consent searches are so 90's now. If I smell something, see something, you say something, or the hair missile alerts, it makes all of those questions OBE. That's old crap from the Bob Vogel (Volusia County, FL) School of Drug Interdiction. The big loads are in different vehicles these days, anyway.

If I wanted to search your vehicle, DTH, it would just be to see what cool toys you had with you.

:cool:
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video funny "any firearms in the vehicle today" - Bing video
 
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