The Impeachment Thread

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0nelilreb said:
What’s fascinating is an impeachment “ inquiry “ that had hopes of swinging votes without following through on full impeachment votes in house and senate thinking you could pull some independents in and ignoring the fact that the public gets tired and bored of long drawn out fishing expeditions fairly quickly and it doesn’t matter which party is hosting the fishing party . Now that’s what’s fascinating.
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Maybe you're right. It's all rather disappointing and disheartening. At least it will help on the historical perspective.
Still fascinating to behold.
 
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Devin Nunes spent $57,000 on flights to Europe to allegedly investigate Bidens as ethics complaint filed over 'abuse' of office

Starting to think this Nunes fellow isn't on the up and up. No wonder he was cutting off his own House Counsel during the Fiona Hill questioning. Using taxpayer dollars to investigate a red herring given by Russian military intelligence, which happens to be a pet narrative of the POTUS, on the arrangements of a shady financier with a history of criminal activity who for some reason pays the POTUS's private lawyer? Then pretending he knows nothing in the impeachment hearings even after a key witness more or less calls him out? Seems a little swampy, no?

Reports filed with the Office of the Clerk for the House of Representatives show that Nunes claimed expenses for a four-day trip to Europe at the time in question between November 30 and December 3. Four entries for "commercial airfare" were claimed for Scott Glabe, George Pappas, Derek Harvey and Nunes himself.

Each claimed $14,201.43 for their visit—which included daily allowances—and came to a total of $56,805.72.
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luthervol said:
Maybe you're right. It's all rather disappointing and disheartening. At least it will help on the historical perspective.
Still fascinating to behold.
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We Americans have a short attention span . When either side decides to do something they only have a short time before we get bored and move on . That’s why platforms like Twitter and Tic Toc are so popular and work so well on our ADD and ADHD society .
 
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0nelilreb said:
We Americans have a short attention span . When either side decides to do something they only have a short time before we get bored and move on . That’s why platforms like Twitter and Tic Toc are so popular and work so well on our ADD and ADHD society .
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True. That's part of what is so disappointing and disheartening.
 
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BigOrangeD said:

NO WAY OUT
LIZ PEEK: Suddenly dithering Democrats paying impeachment price with swing-state voters
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But none of those polls are in the 20's as Trump claimed and the Emerson poll hasn't seen a dramatic shift as Liz Peek is claiming. It's moved about 3 points against impeachment but that isn't unusual. Impeachment hearings are partisan and unpleasant. It's natural for the public to repel slightly. As long as new information continues to emerge (which appears to be the case), those numbers will go back up.

As for Trump's approval ratings going up? Liz Peek is just wrong. Check out his approval numbers in his favorite poll right now... that of course being Rasmussen Reports - they have him at 44%. That is a right leaning poll and that is exactly where Trump was a month ago. His numbers have not changed a bit. Both sides are deeply dug in.
 
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FallCreekVols said:
Don’t forget the debunked conspiracy card.
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You mean the CrowdStrike theory that Trump was pushing on Fox and Friends last Friday morning? Yes, that has been debunked all over the damn place. CrowdStrike is based in Sunnyvale, California, not the Ukraine. The FBI did inspect the DNC server. The following 5 sites which specialize in fact-checking have all debunked that theory (a long time ago).

1) AP FACT CHECK:
2) PolitiFact
3) FactCheck.org
4) truthorfiction.com
5) Snopes

Don't believe me? Take 1 minute and go check... I'll wait.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You mean the CrowdStrike theory that Trump was pushing on Fox and Friends last Friday morning? Yes, that has been debunked all over the damn place. CrowdStrike is based in Sunnyvale, California, not the Ukraine. The FBI did inspect the DNC server. The following 5 sites which specialize in fact-checking have all debunked that theory (a long time ago).

1) AP FACT CHECK:
2) PolitiFact
3) FactCheck.org
4) truthorfiction.com
5) Snopes

Don't believe me? Take 1 minute and go check... I'll wait.
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Best debunk for this one is the GOP . . . well, their actions not their words.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...conspiracy-theories/5dbf22d488e0fa10ffd20b34/


House Republicans’ campaign arm is still relying on CrowdStrike to protect its sensitive data, even as the cybersecurity firm has become embroiled in a bizarre conspiracy theory promoted by President Trump and his GOP allies . . .

“[This is] a great illustration of how the GOP knows better when it enables conspiracy theorists,” Peter Singer, a cybersecurity expert at the New America think tank, told me. “It actually makes that knowing act worse.”
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BowlBrother85 said:
Exactly! Is Trump aware that his own party uses CrowdStrike? He is an idiot! So, are his followers who believe this crap.
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They are worse than idiots as the article explains.

People can't help being born stupid, but not only do these people know the lies they are spreading aren't true, they hardly try to mask the absolute disrespect they have for our Trumplican brethren here. Sad!

They lie so transparently and so shoddily that their supporters can't get out of the shearing shed without their hides bloodied and their bleats in support of The Chosen One's perfection being weakened down to soft and ineffectual cries for help.
 
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