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#202
#202
zjcvols said:
In any other line of work, you can make money off your name and likeness. Except college athletics. You have a right to earn money off your name and likeness. College athletics can’t. That’s a right they have and the US gives.

If you want to be so fancy and layman terms, they have been denied a privilege every other American has because of antiquated rules.
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You're looking so hard for victim status that you're missing the big important point: They aren't in a profession. They participate in AMATEUR athletics while attending the school they represent. They are students, not employees. "In any other line of work" SMH.
 
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#203
BigOrangeMojo said:
How come? Rick Barnes made money due to him, the assistants made money due to him, the school made money due to him, the SEC made money due to him, ESPN made money due to him, the NCAA made money due to him, the State of Tennessee made money due to him, etc......
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Not taking a shot at Admiral here but he also got a full scholarship and due to UT he was able to get drafted in the NBA. Sounds like a win/win
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
You're looking so hard for victim status that you're missing the big important point: They aren't in a profession. They participate in AMATEUR athletics while attending the school they represent. They are students, not employees. "In any other line of work" SMH.
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Okay, a biology major can create a YouTube channel and make money off of it. A college athlete can’t. That’s not fair and wrong. That’s the point.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
You're looking so hard for victim status that you're missing the big important point: They aren't in a profession. They participate in AMATEUR athletics while attending the school they represent. They are students, not employees. "In any other line of work" SMH.
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He's not the one missing the point. You're the one basing all this on antiquated notions and rules. And "AMATEUR athletics"...HAHAHAHAHAHA....you serious Clark?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
He's not the one missing the point. You're the one basing all this on antiquated notions and rules. And "AMATEUR athletics"...HAHAHAHAHAHA....you serious Clark?
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Alabama made a profit of like $60M last year I think? Just from football. While Nick Saban makes $8M. Real amateur athletics right there.
 
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#208
ShoalCreekVol said:
He definitely poured his emotions out. You could tell he was really connected to the university. Proud to have him as a legend here!
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I would like to ask him if he thinks he would ever cry over money the way he cried when Tennessee gave him that standing ovation.
 
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#211
zjcvols said:
Alabama made a profit of like $60M last year I think? Just from football. While Nick Saban makes $8M. Real amateur athletics right there.
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And those television contracts, conference networks, college football playoffs/bowls, and NCAA Tournament Games all scream "amateur".
 
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#217
ShoalCreekVol said:
So student athletes are employees? And the NCAA is not amateur athletics? That's your stance?
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If some are going to act like they aren’t amateurs then let them be treated like a professional, a kicker misses 3 FGs in one game then the coach should be able to cut him, any player struggling should be able to be cut at any time and they are no longer responsible to pay of the athletes scholarship
 
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#218
There was alot of money that exchanged hands off of Admiral's likeness on various different advertisements. I dont like how this rule seems like it can be abused, but there is no doubt Admiral deserved a portion of the advertising money that was made off of him.

Heck he could have just done voice over work and would have been well off
 
#219
#219
zjcvols said:
Yes. No. That’s my stance.
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Well, there it is. No sense talking to you if you are going to make up things that aren't true. I get it, you live in a world of snowflakes where you can just declare something and it has to be true. I don't live in that world. Student athletes are not employees.
 
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#220
ShoalCreekVol said:
Well, there it is. No sense talking to you if you are going to make up things that aren't true. I get it, you live in a world of snowflakes where you can just declare something and it has to be true. I don't live in that world. Student athletes are not employees.
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The players provide a service to the university which makes the university money and the players are therefore compensated by it. That’s an employee/employer relationship.

You just believe what the NCAA tells you. It’s not being a snowflake it’s called using logic. Not being ignorant because a corporation (which the NCAA is) told me something.
 
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#221
VolsSportsFan said:
It's when your quaint notion of what the NCAA is makes way more sense. Not in 2019.

And no, I don't think the NCAA is "amateur", based on all the money it generates.
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You seem to be getting hung up over the difference between "is" and "I think it should be."

I think we all agree that the athletes deserve to be compensated for their name and likeness. That's why they're negotiating it now.
 
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#222
ShoalCreekVol said:
You seem to be getting hung up over the difference between "is" and "I think it should be."

I think we all agree that the athletes deserve to be compensated for their name and likeness. That's why they're negotiating it now.
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You have a lot of nerve accusing someone else of getitng "hung up" on something given your responses in here.
 
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#223
zjcvols said:
The players provide a service to the university which makes the university money and the players are therefore compensated by it. That’s an employee/employer relationship.

You just believe what the NCAA tells you. It’s not being a snowflake it’s called using logic. Not being ignorant because a corporation (which the NCAA is) told me something.
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When someone pulls the "snowflake" insult out of their ass, it's probably time to just laugh at them and walk away.
 
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