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#26
allvol123 said:
Is this your long answer to they do this altruistically?

Quite hilarious.
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The coaches, the administrators, and the NCAA are profiting. Not the schools. It's an effed up system. Interest and revenues should plummet if it's all classified as what it is... minor league ball. Who cares about the minor leagues?
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
This thread, as anticipated, has already devolved to trash. This was not a criticism of the University of Tennessee. We all know Admiral loved playing here. He is beloved by fans across the country. Yet it was obvious some dullards were going to take this the wrong way and use it as an excuse to attack Admiral. He has a point. The #5 jersey was probably sold countless times at UT stores during his career and he didn't see a penny from that. Not everything is a personal attack on UT. Don't be so sensitive.
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Who has attacked Admiral? His tweet was because of actions taken by the NCAA after California stirred the pot. It's the concept that's being debated, not AS's worthiness.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Nutrition. Training. Top tier medical professionals. Coaching. Facilities. Equipment. Housing. Tutoring. All provided on UT's dime. On top of a degree free of student debt. So much mistreatment.
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Plus, the hotties that come along with being a well known basketball player. You can't put a price tag on that
 
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golfballs said:
So you admit they get advantages others don’t. It’s not like these kids are victimized like many make it out to be
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No, advantages can only be compared when people are doing the exact same thing and one set gets something different.

These groups arent doing the same things.
 
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Everyone may think it's a great idea now, but wait until the market sets in. UGA will be able to hit the Atlanta market, USC/UCLA will have the L.A. market, Texas the Austin/San Antonio market, TCU the Dallas market, etc. It is an instant advantage to those schools that find themselves located in larger cities. Much easier to recruit to those kinds of places when the market of more people/more money is available. It will decimate schools like Auburn, Ole Miss, VT, USC jr, and so on. If you're ready for the biggest flip in power programs in the history of college football then hold on because here it comes. Bama will slide, Clemson will slide, Miami will have an instant advantage over FSU and UF, and Vandy will have an advantage over UT. So...fair or not, this is going to get weird. I think of all the schools in all of college football that this helps the most is UGA and USC.
 
#32
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Jimmy Football said:
Good treatment doesn’t require altruism.

If I ran a business, and gave my staff good accommodations, good pay, and a good benefits package, but only because I wanted to keep top talent and promote productivity, would that be mistreatment?
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So this is a business, right? I agree.
 
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Not being able to make money off of yourself is the definition of anti-capitalistic.

Why should the NCAA be able to tell someone they aren't allowed to make money off of their own likeness?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
The coaches, the administrators, and the NCAA are profiting. Not the schools. It's an effed up system. Interest and revenues should plummet if it's all classified as what it is... minor league ball. Who cares about the minor leagues?
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They profit, otherwise they wouldnt do it.
 
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VEKZY said:
Not being able to make money off of yourself is the definition of anti-capitalistic.

Why should the NCAA be able to tell someone they aren't allowed to make money off of their own likeness?
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Because they are in an agreement with the NCAA. It's called an LOI and scholarship agreement meaning you submit yourself to the rules. this will ultimately hurt UT.
 
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allvol123 said:
So this is a business, right? I agree.
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Yes. Yes it is.

But even if it wasn’t, you can’t assess quality of treatment based on its motivations. I could set up a charity for purely cynical, self-serving reasons, but the doesn’t mean the recipients were being mistreated.

This whole student-athlete equity conversation is already difficult enough without suddenly throwing in an altruism requirement on the part of the universities.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Who has attacked Admiral? His tweet was because of actions taken by the NCAA after California stirred the pot. It's the concept that's being debated, not AS's worthiness.
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If we're being honest you're one of the people mocking his tweet by suggesting his scholarship was enough and he should be grateful to have the facilities and tutoring he had while at UT, which completely misses the point Admiral is trying to make. I'm positive a kid as well-educated and nice as Admiral is grateful for the opportunity UT provided him, but it doesn't account for the fact he could have probably paid off his college and then some if he were allowed to be compensated for the number of times his likeness was used in this state or others.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
Yes. Yes it is.

But even if it wasn’t, you can’t assess quality of treatment based on its motivations. I could set up a charity for purely cynical, self-serving reasons, but the doesn’t mean the recipients were being mistreated.

This whole student-athlete equity conversation is already difficult enough without suddenly throwing in an altruism requirement on the part of the universities.
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I have no concern over a student athlete equity conversation.

These are adults that have created value, they should be able to profit from it.
 
#40
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OrangeVolMan said:
The university makes little to know money off athletics. Most universities lose money on athletics. Almost every penny is poured back into sports. It’s not like the athletes are being taken advantage of so the university can make money.
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They are taking about being able to accept outside contracts from 3rd parties to use their name or likeness, not a cut of perceived revenues from operations. Whats done is done but its basically the end of amateur sports. The money is just crazy out of hand and has been for a while. I can't wait to see the coaches deal with the parents of some of these kids once the smell of cash is in the air. Agents will be handing out contracts to Pee Wee players.
 
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Minor league baseball players travel all night on stinky buses, get a sack of Krystals, and stay at the Motel 6. College athletes fly on luxury jets and have steak and lobster at 4 and 5 star hotels.
 
#42
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allvol123 said:
Is this your long answer to they do this altruistically?

Quite hilarious.
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First that wasn’t a long answer. Second, what I stating was what does the university get out of sports? You are acting like university is making money off of the athletes. They are not. Yes, coaches, sports administration employees, etc are making salaries but does the university really benefit from athletics. Not really. Hope this is not too long for you.
 
#43
#43
OrangeVolMan said:
First that wasn’t a long answer. Second, what I stating was what does the university get out of sports? You are acting like university is making money off of the athletes. They are not. Yes, coaches, sports administration employees, etc are making salaries but does the university really benefit from athletics. Not really. Hope this is not too long for you.
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If they didnt benefit from it, they wouldnt do it. Hope that isnt too complicated for you.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Minor league baseball players travel all night on stinky buses, get a sack of Krystals, and stay at the Motel 6. College athletes fly on luxury jets and have steak and lobster at 4 and 5 star hotels.
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You are comparing apples to oranges and have no idea what you're talking about. High A Minor League Baseball is not the same thing as College Athletics. And guess what? Those High A or Single A players COULD profit off their likeness if they wanted to, but for most of them they are not in a position to do so yet. But, they still have the possibility of doing so if they want. You just don't see many companies trying to pay a no-name Single A player to sell some burgers because there is no value in that unless you're a Bryce Harper level prospect who everyone knows will be in the majors quickly after the draft.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
This thread, as anticipated, has already devolved to trash. This was not a criticism of the University of Tennessee. We all know Admiral loved playing here. He is beloved by fans across the country. Yet it was obvious some dullards were going to take this the wrong way and use it as an excuse to attack Admiral. He has a point. The #5 jersey was probably sold countless times at UT stores during his career and he didn't see a penny from that. Not everything is a personal attack on UT. Don't be so sensitive.
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There was never an intention to trash Admiral or was I referring that he didn't love playing for UT.....Just posted it as it was a interesting Twitter response to a fan.....
 
#50
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TheMookieMonster said:
If we're being honest you're one of the people mocking his tweet by suggesting his scholarship was enough and he should be grateful to have the facilities and tutoring he had while at UT, which completely misses the point Admiral is trying to make. I'm positive a kid as well-educated and nice as Admiral is grateful for the opportunity UT provided him, but it doesn't account for the fact he could have probably paid off his college and then some if he were allowed to be compensated for the number of times his likeness was used in this state or others.
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I didn't mock his tweet. Get a ****ing clue.
 
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