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MoCo_Vol said:
Jalen Hurts, Tate Marshall, Jacob Eason, Justin Fields, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Shea Patterson, Kelly Bryant, Hunter Johnson, Austin Kendall, Tommy Stevens, Ryan Willis

It's kind of becoming a bigger deal...not saying Bailey doesn't arrive on campus, but if he loses the starting job after a year here what's to stop him leaving?
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Ya, the transfers should help with kids who don't want to wait. They can go to the school they want and transfer if they don't get the job.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
One of the biggest reasons the Browns are where they are at is because Mayfield isnt playing well at all. He thinks he can ballerina dance around in the backfield like he could in the Big 12. These NFL defense are eating that up.
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He's sober-Manziel. I think Mayfield can figure it out but he's in a make-or-break slump/wall right now.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
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Call me old fashioned, Call me a crusty old man but I wish our Qb would stop the self promoting and get his ass to work on MSU.

I’d prefer the “i did some good things but need to get Better” approach than feeling the need to waste his time self promoting himself on social media about a game we lost by 29pts in.
 
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The 25 signee cap is really killing our rebuild.

Especially when so many '17s and Banks Antonutti from '18 are leaving/gone. Then next season additional '18s are likely gone in DWA (graduated) and maybe a few transfers for lack of PT (Shrout, Bradon Davis etc)

And you look at that '18 class.... our #1 guy Peterson is a complete non factor, despite all the physical talent in the world and nothing but opportunity in front of him.

Jordan Allen, I think, has some kind of injury - but even before that he's been a non factor for a JUCO kid, and when he is in, he looks completely lost out there. Wanted to transfer this past offseason and his mom talked him out of it. It'll be curious to see what he does after this year.

Ollie Lane appears to have been recruited over. I literally never hear his name mentioned anywhere. Same with Brandon Davis. For someone who said the staff compared him to Honey Badger, I can't recall him ever even getting on the field despite all the opportunities.

Trevon Flowers has been MIA. Or has he been playing? Hell I don't have a clue.

John Mincey isn't mentioned hardly.

Way too early prognostication is, it looks like going into the 2020 season, when the '18s should be the backbone of the team, we're only going to have the following reliable contributors:

Alontae Taylor (I think he gets healthy and is a top 3 corner on this team next year - fingers crossed)
Bryce Thompson (tbh I worry that he stays out of trouble long enough to finish his career here)
Greg Emerson (Despite being our 3rd highest rated signee in 18 [behind JJP and AT] I expected basically nothing from him after his injury. So glad he's developing into one of our best DL, although that isn't saying much)
Emmitt Gooden - He'll come back from that ACL and should give us one more good year before graduation and hopefully a future in the NFL.
Kurott Garland - Surprisingly has graded out as one of the best DL in a couple games this year.
Cedric Tillman - Getting playing time now, and by next year will be in his third year on the team. Considering the void at WR next year, he should see plenty of playing time.
Kenneth George - Doesn't look half bad when he's on the field.

TBD:

Jacob Warren - I don't remember which outlet was reporting it, but someone was very high on him this off season - that he was flashing but needed another year due to the near 30+ lb weight gain. In school he was a gifted receiver and if he can adjust to his size, he might be a match up issue for defenses.
John Mincey - I don't want to write him off. I think he might just be buried in the mediocre depth chart. Maybe another year will do wonders for him.

Outside of that I don't know who we'd really be able to count on. That isn't good.

I don't fault CJP for this considering the short period of time he had to throw together a class. But if you look at it, we don't look like we're going to have any reliable offensive players from the '18 year. Maybe Jerome Carvin?
 
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BruinVol said:
Call me old fashioned, Call me a crusty old man but I wish our Qb would stop the self promoting and get his ass to work MSU.

I’d prefer the “i did some good things but need to get Better” approach than feeling the need to waste his time self promoting himself on twitter about a game we lost by 29pts in.
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You're old fashion.
Let him build his confidence. There is nothing wrong with him taking 2 seconds out of his morning to post a video. Who said he isn't working? Maybe he is in class and just wanted to post it.
 
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BruinVol said:
Call me old fashioned, Call me a crusty old man but I wish our Qb would stop the self promoting and get his ass to work on MSU.

I’d prefer the “i did some good things but need to get Better” approach than feeling the need to waste his time self promoting himself on social media about a game we lost by 29pts in.
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I prefer to think that players with this mentality have the self awareness to understand they better go back it up! I like his self confidence / swagger, our hope should be he strives to live up to it on the field.
 
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Yes I am old fashioned. Ill never accept the look at me and My accomplishments when a team loses as a good thing. Sorry
TrippieRedd said:
You're old fashion.
Let him build his confidence. There is nothing wrong with him taking 2 seconds out of his morning to post a video. Who said he isn't working? Maybe he is in class and just wanted to post it.
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HoleInTheRoof said:
The 25 signee cap is really killing our rebuild.

Especially when so many '17s and Banks Antonutti from '18 are leaving/gone. Then next season additional '18s are likely gone in DWA (graduated) and maybe a few transfers for lack of PT (Shrout, Bradon Davis etc)

And you look at that '18 class.... our #1 guy Peterson is a complete non factor, despite all the physical talent in the world and nothing but opportunity in front of him.

Jordan Allen, I think, has some kind of injury - but even before that he's been a non factor for a JUCO kid, and when he is in, he looks completely lost out there. Wanted to transfer this past offseason and his mom talked him out of it. It'll be curious to see what he does after this year.

Ollie Lane appears to have been recruited over. I literally never hear his name mentioned anywhere. Same with Brandon Davis. For someone who said the staff compared him to Honey Badger, I can't recall him ever even getting on the field despite all the opportunities.

Trevon Flowers has been MIA. Or has he been playing? Hell I don't have a clue.

John Mincey isn't mentioned hardly.

Way too early prognostication is, it looks like going into the 2020 season, when the '18s should be the backbone of the team, we're only going to have the following reliable contributors:

Alontae Taylor (I think he gets healthy and is a top 3 corner on this team next year - fingers crossed)
Bryce Thompson (tbh I worry that he stays out of trouble long enough to finish his career here)
Greg Emerson (Despite being our 3rd highest rated signee in 18 [behind JJP and AT] I expected basically nothing from him after his injury. So glad he's developing into one of our best DL, although that isn't saying much)
Emmitt Gooden - He'll come back from that ACL and should give us one more good year before graduation and hopefully a future in the NFL.
Kurott Garland - Surprisingly has graded out as one of the best DL in a couple games this year.
Cedric Tillman - Getting playing time now, and by next year will be in his third year on the team. Considering the void at WR next year, he should see plenty of playing time.
Kenneth George - Doesn't look half bad when he's on the field.

TBD:

Jacob Warren - I don't remember which outlet was reporting it, but someone was very high on him this off season - that he was flashing but needed another year due to the near 30+ lb weight gain. In school he was a gifted receiver and if he can adjust to his size, he might be a match up issue for defenses.
John Mincey - I don't want to write him off. I think he might just be buried in the mediocre depth chart. Maybe another year will do wonders for him.

Outside of that I don't know who we'd really be able to count on. That isn't good.

I don't fault CJP for this considering the short period of time he had to throw together a class. But if you look at it, we don't look like we're going to have any reliable offensive players from the '18 year. Maybe Jerome Carvin?
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I think the coaches may be planning to RS Mincey. We have plenty of bodies at DL this year and if Mincey is not a big upgrade over any of the other DL playing right now.. it would be smart to RS him.
 
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BruinVol said:
Call me old fashioned, Call me a crusty old man but I wish our Qb would stop the self promoting and get his ass to work on MSU.

I’d prefer the “i did some good things but need to get Better” approach than feeling the need to waste his time self promoting himself on social media about a game we lost by 29pts in.
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Pretty sure the kid didn't sit around for 3-4 days and put together a video...…….
 
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