Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[nicksjuzunk]

So no money fo the haircut then

 

[butchna]

I purposely said 10 years ago and not 25 years ago for that reason lol

That’s why I didn’t heap rage and righteous indignation on ya!

 

[KPT_VFL]

It’s over. Bring us a proven winning head coach. The last thing TN fans want to be told is “be patient” weve been patient for over 15 years and have all the facilities and support other schools have. No more BS just win.

 

[LynxVol]

QB can be coached and grown. You don't have to just "get lucky" and pick the right one or else. This notion that QB at college or pro level are either good or not, it's just a matter of getting lucky and identifying elite ones is silly. Almost all of the top 25 or so QB in high school and college are good enough to be good at the next level. The issue is coaching, scheme, development, training, etc...and less about whether a QB is predestined to be good or bad. Put Brady on the Browns of 10 years ago, and Brady is talked about as yet another Browns bust instead of a possible GOAT.

It's also about playing to players' strengths. Coaches should identify individual and team strengths and play to them. Coaches can also hide or protect individual and team weaknesses. That was one of the points I was trying to make about Chaney with JG yesterday.

One positive I can think of with the current staff is that I believe they can identify genuinely good football players, and our recruiting has benefited from that. However, I think the jury is still out on whether this staff is truly good at developing those players. I think it's a mixed bag so far.

 

[butchna]

Good grief... you couldn’t script that

Getting the band back together.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Pruitt is safe.
He has support where he needs it internally unless he does something completely off the wall.

What is your interpretation of what's happening on the field and in the locker room? What does the support believe the issue is?

 

[tnmarktx]

No I'm not kidding. See ATL Vol post. He's not going anywhere

Agree he's not going anywhere. Even if his record ends up being worse then dooley or jones. It's going to get rough.

 

[jakez4ut]

My last comment on the matter, and feel free to ignore:

Recruits are watching how the fanbase handles the adversity of the next month. And by recruits, I mean some that we really, really want and will be on campus in the coming weeks. They feel that they will be the difference next year and are excited to get on campus and kickstart the rebuild. But they wonder about playing in a toxic environment where fans are against them. And they wonder about committing to coaches who've told them they would be here, but are getting trashed by fans. They wonder what kind of family UT really is. Relationships and support: they matter.

this.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

The only way out of this mess quickly is a time machine. Joke, no joke.

Racheting up the misery just makes it worse. The more radioactive UT becomes, the less good people will want to be part of it-- at any level.

Empty Neyland

That’ll fix it. Folks need to know I’m disappointed, because it’s unclear if I dislike losses

 

[SLICKYINC]

It’s over. Bring us a proven winning head coach. The last thing TN fans want to be told is “be patient” weve been patient for over 15 years and have all the facilities and support other schools have. No more BS just win.

I'm a TN fan and I'd rather go the patience route. If we see no improvement through next season, then I'm OK with moving on.

 

[tnmarktx]

What is your interpretation of what's happening on the field and in the locker room? What does the support believe the issue is?

Firing them in the first place?

 

[jakez4ut]

Fans on twitter have less than 1% impact on anything to do with our program. Bama would pay a fleet (flock?) of tweeters to trash every coach who was recruiting against them if that were a viable strategy.

you don't think they do?

and htey're not the only ones.....

as new as social media is relatively speaking, it didn't take all that long to figure out how to spin, create and push narratives by its use.

twitter, instagram....they do matter. it's a primary source of information for this generation. of course it matters....how much it matters is up to the individual that uses it.........

 

[tnmarktx]

I'm a TN fan and I'd rather go the patience route. If we see no improvement through next season, then I'm OK with moving on.

There may be slight improvement. 2-10 this year to 4-8 next.

 

[volinbama256]

My last comment on the matter, and feel free to ignore:

Recruits are watching how the fanbase handles the adversity of the next month. And by recruits, I mean some that we really, really want and will be on campus in the coming weeks. They feel that they will be the difference next year and are excited to get on campus and kickstart the rebuild. But they wonder about playing in a toxic environment where fans are against them. And they wonder about committing to coaches who've told them they would be here, but are getting trashed by fans. They wonder what kind of family UT really is. Relationships and support: they matter.

I hate to say it, but I think it really comes down to QB play and our staff's willingness to make the switch and stick with it. If what you are saying is true, then putting the "future" in along with all the other new talent is the only way to show the recruits he has a plan and should steady the fanbase... Reading through these comments, I think folks would be shocked at how well the fan base would act the remainder of the season in terms of support, if they saw that Pruitt was willing to try and fix the situation by putting in Maurer...
A pre-schooler can see there is no hope for a redshirt junior that is playing like a Jr High scrub... I hate it for the kid, but that is just a fact... The fanbase can then get behind a true "rebuild" and support the talent out there giving it everything they've got and trying to improve... I know I would support it... Pruitt keeps putting JG in, and oh well, whatever happens, that's then on him and you would have to use the term "you can't fix stupid."

 

[chargervol]

My goodness. Are y'all idiots seriously trying the empty neyland crap again?

If they do, it'll end the same way it did last time.
1 positive when they try something stupid like this, get reminded loud squeals on social media isn't the real world.

 

[mccrackb]

Exactly. You can’t be done on Pruitt, yet. The offense needs to be less predictable with counters and misdirection in the run game.

JG has to learn to put some touch on the ball and take some steam off. 7-21 points were missed because of this.

If JG enters the game or starts the game, I'm out!

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

Pruitt is safe.
He has support where he needs it internally unless he does something completely off the wall.

Good

 

[NMVol]

Pruitt gets this year and next at a minimum. His tone is spot on for the circumstances. No one want's to be as bad as Vandy has historically been but a knee jerk coaching change is not going to get us moving in the right direction. My 2 cents.

 

[SLICKYINC]

you don't think they do?

and htey're not the only ones.....

as new as social media is relatively speaking, it didn't take all that long to figure out how to spin, create and push narratives by its use.

twitter, instagram....they do matter. it's a primary source of information for this generation. of course it matters....how much it matters is up to the individual that uses it.........

It matters enough that our current players actually get into pissing contests with the dummy side of Voltwitter.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[RiotVol]

He has a weird throwing motion.

Because he was stepping backwards and short-arming it to get it out of their before the DE got there. The fact he did all of that, and still put it on the money when the game is on the line against top tier competition is remarkable.

 

[rjd970]

Empty Neyland

That’ll fix it. Folks need to know I’m disappointed, because it’s unclear if I dislike losses

My thoughts....empty neyland is stupid.

If you were already going and still want to go...then go have fun. If you weren't going anyway, then shutup about empty Neyland. If you were on the fence and have decided it isn't worth your time or effort, that is completely reasonable.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

It's also about playing to players' strengths. Coaches should identify individual and team strengths and play to them. Coaches can also hide or protect individual and team weaknesses. That was one of the points I was trying to make about Chaney with JG yesterday.

One positive I can think of with the current staff is that I believe they can identify genuinely good football players, and our recruiting has benefited from that. However, I think the jury is still out on whether this staff is truly good at developing those players. I think it's a mixed bag so far.

what are JG's strengths?

 

[JohnnyD1024]