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McGeesPub said:
It’s just hard for me to fathom how much further we could be set back from 2-10. If you say 0-12, I just don’t see any real difference between the two. I guess if we are 2-10 and still have some semblance of a top 20 recruiting class, that’s something. But if you hire a real coach, you’d probably get at least a bump in excitement from recruits from that.

We have the second most production in the country that returned from last year and an easier schedule. So what gives aside from coaching?
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Nah, it's pretty much all coaching. This isn't a 2-10 roster at all. Moving forward either way is a gamble. It just depends on which one has better odds of us being good in five years. To me that choice is pretty clear and it's firing Pruitt ASAP, because we've seen enough. But...that's still a gamble, because then it makes the next guy's job harder, and it makes it harder to get that next guy. But as I said, keeping him may be the bigger gamble, because what if he's just total ass in 2020 as well and we're 3-9 or something? Then we may have two terrible classes in a row and be sort of locked into 90s Vandy land.
 
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Devo182 said:
Lol probably not...

7-5 is now the absolute ceiling. And even that is absurdly optimistic. Hell, 4-8 looks optimistic right now. That is insane. Sucks to be here so soon.
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We'd have to win every game post bama.

Don't see that happening
 
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jakez4ut said:
Boils down to three things that we knew would be questions going in.

Ol
DL
QB

Only 1 of those three has shown to have come close to giving positive answers to those questions.

Aside from that, Nigel warrior and Taylor have been let downs in the secondary. And I simply cannot explain that....
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I think the regression/lack of improvement/lack of development/whatever you want to call it is the most troubling part, with it being the specialty of both Pruitt and Ansley.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Boils down to three things that we knew would be questions going in.

Ol
DL
QB

Only 1 of those three has shown to have come close to giving positive answers to those questions.

Aside from that, Nigel warrior and Taylor have been let downs in the secondary. And I simply cannot explain that....
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Jabari Davis suggested that Warrior wasn’t Dale Carter’s real son today. It was a joke.... I think.....
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Here’s my thoughts. I like Pruitt but if we don’t start playing better, winning some games and this class falls completely apart. Then I think you start looking around to see who might be an option as a replacement.

What this staff is able to salvage will be the tell, imo.
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His only chance is a backup QB *probably. Those that just hate him will say "fire him for not playing him sooner" but most will understand the concept of the backups getting better the longer they are taught.

Win some games and argue it wasn't the coaching. Same for recruiting. Don't and that sale becomes way harder.
 
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Aesius said:
Nah, it's pretty much all coaching. This isn't a 2-10 roster at all. Moving forward either way is a gamble. It just depends on which one has better odds of us being good in five years. To me that choice is pretty clear and it's firing Pruitt ASAP, because we've seen enough. But...that's still a gamble, because then it makes the next guy's job harder, and it makes it harder to get that next guy. But as I said, keeping him may be the bigger gamble, because what if he's just total ass in 2020 as well and we're 3-9 or something? Then we may have two terrible classes in a row and be sort of locked into 90s Vandy land.
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We're already there.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
We have been blown out by Mizzou, Vandy, and now UF. Lost to Georgia state and BYU. And we have one win over one of the worst teams in college football. This is only our last six games. We are looking at our worst season in the history of our football program. I don’t know what it will take for people to realize that it is not working. Do we need to lose to UAB as well for everyone to jump? I wish Pruitt would light the world on fire and we make a massive comeback. I want to be able to go to a game and actually enjoy the game because I can be proud of the team on the field (win or lose).
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I get it, I truly do. As I’ve said before, I’ve been here at the start of the Battle years, through all the ups and downs, and it’s tiresome and heartbreaking to see it now, but after the last 11 years, I don’t believe CPF (that is what he is to me), is going to shelve Pruitt now. Heartbreaking, that it just shows what a long rebuild it truly is. I was one, that didn’t think it was at the time of Pruitt’s hire. I was wrong.
 
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jakez4ut said:
We're already there.
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We have talent. We should be 6-6 or 7-5 this year with the East the way it is and our OOC schedule. We can absolutely get worse. This roster could be devoid of talent AND we could have bad coaching. That's 90s Vandy.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Boils down to three things that we knew would be questions going in.

Ol
DL
QB

Only 1 of those three has shown to have come close to giving positive answers to those questions.

Aside from that, Nigel warrior and Taylor have been let downs in the secondary. And I simply cannot explain that....
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The whole thing is just so utterly inexplicable.

And sadly, what hope is there for next year? Maybe the LOSs are improved, but unlikely dominant once again. Pass rush? No answer at QB. All new WRs. I just don't know where the light at the end of the tunnel is at this point and that is the worst thing right now. Not even hope.
 
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Such an odd feeling: that sense that this team be showing significant improvements in the "win" column, versus, the reality of what we are experiencing. Lot's of football still to be played.
 
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If recruiting falls off a cliff and we keep trotting JG out there then we should know for an absolute fact Pruitt doesn’t care and is mailing this **** in for the buyout.
 
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Aesius said:
We have talent. We should be 6-6 or 7-5 this year with the East the way it is and our OOC schedule. We can absolutely get worse. This roster could be devoid of talent AND we could have bad coaching. That's 90s Vandy.
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Whatever. We're 1-3 coming off 4-8 and 5-7.... Looks like a duck sounds like a duck walks like a duck

Probably a duck.
 
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Devo182 said:
The whole thing is just so utterly inexplicable.

And sadly, what hope is there for next year? Maybe the LOSs are improved, but unlikely dominant once again. Pass rush? No answer at QB. All new WRs. I just don't know where the light at the end of the tunnel is at this point and that is the worst thing right now. Not even hope.
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Yeah... Much longer rebuild than a lot of people think/thought..21 or 22 season could be pretty good...
 
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rjd970 said:
If recruiting falls off a cliff and we keep trotting JG out there then we should know for an absolute fact Pruitt doesn’t care and is mailing this **** in for the buyout.
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I remember years ago Baylor was down their top 2 or 3 QBs and it was down to walkons or a drastic change in offense. So they put their most athletic runner in the wildcat and ran crazy and kept scoring plenty. It was wild to see work. I just wonder if we have someone that could succeed in that. Some say JJ, but I think we need more speed for it. I think AT played some QB in HS. Maybe even Crouch or BT could be interesting.
 
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