2020 Presidential Race

[LouderVol]

No more finger painting and naps. They're doing reading, writing and math now.

They need that down here. My boss was complaining that it wasnt right for her son in second grade to be required to read.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Just wait until everyone gets college. And then they just need more after that. Cause grade school, err high school, err college just isnt enough these days. Meanwhile we are paying laborers more than PHDs and the "idiots" are laughing all the way to the bank.

Having a better educated laborer is a plus also. They will probably require less supervision and have more initiative. Plus they will be more equipped to manage their financial and home life. +++++

 

[LouderVol]

If everyone is walking around with a degree it will make for a better educated society. But everyone won't have a degree. Those who aren't motivated or equipped to attend college still won't be going even if it's free.

Besides having more educated people creates more competition for jobs and results in more capable people filling those jobs.

The goal of high school now is to prep for college not prep for real life.

Having college as the goal has ruined education in this country. Doubling down on more isnt the fix.

 

[0nelilreb]

Having a better educated laborer is a plus also. They will probably require less supervision and have more initiative. Plus they will be more equipped to manage their financial and home life. +++++

LOL so dismissing student loans and making college “ free “ will now teach laborers to manage their money better at home ?

 

[hog88]

If everyone is walking around with a degree it will make for a better educated society. But everyone won't have a degree. Those who aren't motivated or equipped to attend college still won't be going even if it's free.

Besides having more educated people creates more competition for jobs and results in more capable people filling those jobs.

You have a point but then you make it even harder for those without a degree to find employment.

In my little corner of the world I'm hiring college graduates for positions that I use to fill with HS graduates, these are hourly technician jobs.

 

[LouderVol]

Having a better educated laborer is a plus also. They will probably require less supervision and have more initiative. Plus they will be more equipped to manage their financial and home life. +++++

Lol. They would also require more pay. Meaning less gets built. Including everyone favorite affordable housing.

Believe me when I say the last thing you want is a college educated work force doing construction to any major extent.

 

[utvolpj]

They need that down here. My boss was complaining that it wasnt right for her son in second grade to be required to read.

My youngest son is reading small books to the class in K. My 2nd grader is reading good sized chapter books. We lucked into a very good charter school. Schools that would likely be taken away or limited by the current batch of lefties

 

[hog88]

Having a better educated laborer is a plus also. They will probably require less supervision and have more initiative. Plus they will be more equipped to manage their financial and home life. +++++

I agree with you on this point but look at what you are saying. That college educated laborer's degree lost value.

A better option is to increase the standards in HS and make sure every HS graduate is employable.

 

[0nelilreb]

You have a point but then you make it even harder for those without a degree to find employment.

In my little corner of the world I'm hiring college graduates for positions that I use to fill with HS graduates, these are hourly technician jobs.

LOL @ “ technician “

 

[hog88]

LOL @ “ technician “

Can't call them laborers anymore.

 

[Orangeburst]

make sure every HS graduate is employable.

The $15 min wage will drive these kids out.

 

[Orangeburst]

LOL @ “ technician “

I was an engineer in my college days....custodial engineer.

 

[utvolpj]

Those who aren't motivated or equipped to attend college still won't be going even if it's free.

but if it's free there is no motivation to not try. Then they fail out after a couple of years and are no closer to having a marketable skill. This needs to happen in HS not when they're 22yo with nothing going for them

 

[Hunerwadel]

Statistics bear out that the ignorant and uneducated have flocked to the Republicans(?). Donnie even stated how much he loves the uneducated. I believe you guys are afraid that a more educated society will see through the great Right wing ruses such as trickle down economics and weakening of environmental regulations. They may even understand that the tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations really haven't benefited them significantly. .

 

[MontyPython]

What else do you think should be "free"?

College is shoved down kids throat way too much. If everyone had a degree, what would it be worth?

You're right - in part - of course. But, having a more educated society would be an overall benefit, would it not?

 

[utvolpj]

Statistics bear out that the ignorant and uneducated have flocked to the Republicans(?). Donnie even stated how much he loves the uneducated. I believe you guys are afraid that a more educated society will see through the great Right wing ruses such as trickle down economics and weakening of environmental regulations. They may even understand that the tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations really haven't benefited them significantly. .

If the left is so educated why are they willing to let politicians with terrible track records solve all their problems ? Wouldn't a more educated person choose to be less reliant on others? To solve their own problems and make their own choices?

 

[tvolsfan]

Unless Biden goes out there and blurts out the N Word, the mainstream media will force him down our throats until the end of time

That’s because he keeps leading the polls.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I agree with you on this point but look at what you are saying. That college educated laborer's degree lost value.

A better option is to increase the standards in HS and make sure every HS graduate is employable.

A college educated laborer's degree is not lost value as I stated in my previous post. It certainly benefits the employer. Education is always a net gain. I agree with the need to increase HS standards.

 

[hog88]

You're right - in part - of course. But, having a more educated society would be an overall benefit, would it not?

Of course but how about we focus on educating them in HS and making sure they are employable and ready to enter the workforce then.

 

[0nelilreb]

but if it's free there is no motivation to not try. Then they fail out after a couple of years and are no closer to having a marketable skill. This needs to happen in HS not when they're 22yo with nothing going for them

There are some companies that have great college programs they will help pay for while you are working . This is one of the best things I’ve seen overall as far as a give back program and all it takes is for you to maintain a C average while you are enrolled . This to me makes a lot of sense . You get to make money and have the place you work for split the cost of your college education and the company gets a more educated ( usually a more specifically educated ) employee . Win win

 

[hog88]

A college educated laborer's degree is not lost value as I stated in my previous post. It certainly benefits the employer. Education is always a net gain. I agree with the need to increase HS standards.

When a job pays $20 an hour to a high school graduate is filled with a college graduate at the same pay, their degree is now only as valuable as a HS diploma.

 

[0nelilreb]

A college educated laborer's degree is not lost value as I stated in my previous post. It certainly benefits the employer. Education is always a net gain. I agree with the need to increase HS standards.

Depends on the education the employee received if it will benefit that employee or employer .

 

[Hunerwadel]

You have a point but then you make it even harder for those without a degree to find employment.

In my little corner of the world I'm hiring college graduates for positions that I use to fill with HS graduates, these are hourly technician jobs.

They may do a better job and be more promotable. I would think it is certainly good for you as an employer. It may help your bottom line. They probably won't miss as much work and have fewer outside problems to attend to.

 

[volfanjustin]

You're right - in part - of course. But, having a more educated society would be an overall benefit, would it not?

I don't see what difference it would make. I would guess half the kids in college now either don't want to be there or have no business being there, not sure we benefit from adding to those numbers. Some folks aren't built for college. One can make a hell of a living without college.

 

[0nelilreb]

They may do a better job and be more promotable. I would think it is certainly good for you as an employer. It may help your bottom line. They probably won't miss as much work and have fewer outside problems to attend to.

That last part is pure BS and huge speculation on your part