Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[kemotoe]

Pruitt: JG has practiced extremely well and has made some plays in both games.

I am convinced JG's family has mob ties and the staff is being forced to play him. That's the only explanation right?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Pruitt is the guy boys. He's going to get us back. Patience.

 

[butchna]

Honest question, because I think you give good thought towards this stuff and have good reasons: who would you start? Would you go with the younger QB's to see how they do or go with JG and then sub in one of the other younger QB's if we pull away from UTC?

Can’t start em til you play them (see Nathan Peterman). So, the second one. What I personally believe that Pruitt/Chaney/Weinke are juggling is the confidence factor. You indicate too strongly that you’re prone to going in another direction and you may lose whatever good you’ve built up in your starter. And if neither of the other two options are up for it, you’ve completely tanked the season. Happened TWICE for Fulmer in non-coincidentally his only two losing seasons. Yo-yoing Ainge/Clausen the first and Crompton/Stephens the second. Both Ainge and Crompton proved worthy with proper handling...Fulmer may have shared that with his hire. If JG starts and doesn’t show much, I can see the staff really break down what the other two show...with perspective of it being their first college action. Chaney has never been timid with going another direction. Tyler Bray and Jake Fromm (even tho his opportunity came with an injury) are ready examples. Read...schmead! We’re not seeing good throws...period!

 

[McGeesPub]

Don't forget Dooley's first class heavily benefited from Kiffin's early enrollees which included Tyler Bray and Jawaun James. Not to mention the guys he laid the groundwork for like Justin Hunter, James Stone and Da'Rick Rogers.

Rogers and Stone had absolutely no interest in playing for Kiffin. I believe Hunter is in that boat as well, but don’t remember it as vividly as the first two.

 

[Garren04]

 

[volinbama256]

JG for Heisman.

Guess the staff doesn't break down tape, because this clip alone would bring plenty of questions... NM the countless others from both games... I know JG is technically the most experienced, but lord Pruitt is gonna get it if he continues to stay in and F up, and lose games for us... And he will deserve the criticism.

 

[VolInDayton]

Pruitt: JG has practiced extremely well and has made some plays in both games.

I am convinced JG's family has mob ties and the staff is being forced to play him. That's the only explanation right?

The second part about that was when he said there are gamers and we need to get the other people on the field

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Dang Maurer has some moxie lol

 

[volinbama256]

Was thinking about UF game. Our O is one dimensional right now, we can’t throw. UF run D is really really good! We effed if they don’t find a passing game this week.

And we won't find it in a week, not with this QB, so get ready to be ass whipped.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

UNDEFEATED in the SEC...feels good man

 

[chargervol]

Honestly, I didn't really watch him closely due to being in the stands. It is more than just stepping up during one game though. Leadership is something that is demonstrated over time. Not something you turn on at game time. Again, I am not saying that JG isn't a good leader because I don't see what he does during practice or meetings or other times. It is just the impression I get as a casual observer. When a WR has to step up and claim the leadership role it speaks to me that JG isn't willing to take it on.

Pruitt's words from coach's show (I think you may be right)

"It's easy to be a leader after the game or in a player's meeting but what about when the bullets are flying, when it really counts? I think we've got SOME really good leaders on this team and the young guys respond really well to them"

Absolutely reading between the lines on my part, not pretending otherwise. But there was a way that he said it.

 

[VolGee4]

That has been frustrating. Calloway and JJ are both above average on 50/50 fades, and JG throws a decent long ball. If nothing else it stretches the defense out and makes them think an extra half second before coming down closer to the LOS for future plays. Could be lack of faith in the OL like you said, but I do hope we see some of that soon.

I think against Georgia State, Chaney was feeling out the OL. Didn’t want sacks and lose down and distance.

In pregame on radio, I heard BYU’s standard defense is a deep zone. They try to keep everything in front of them. I can’t pretend to know the details, but my guess is some long plays were taken away. The deep crosses and the seam routes were what was open against their defense.

 

[butchna]

I have legit made it to real apathy. I really don't care or have the effort to go through any of the explanations anymore.

Kiffin's midnight departure, Dooley in a wheelchair, finding new ways to lose, Butch's stupid sales pitches, taking buyouts so we pay CBJ to coach at Bama, champions of life, pictures of CBJ smoking cigars after beating his old team, awful local media, losing to GSU, blowing it against BYU, rival fan pity, Hamilton, Hart, Fulmer, bad calls, last minute busts, winless SEC seasons, losing streaks to Bama, Mizz, UGA, UF, and Vandy with no hope of them ending, losing season, no bowls...

I just don't care anymore. This is a never ending nightmare.

How much did typing this post take out of you?

 

[wuwh_08]

I have not wavered in my support of CJP listening to the press conference. He is growing...he wants to develop an identity that they "coaches" will do everything to win (4th and 1).

 

[SLICKYINC]

 

[zhangliao04]

Then freaking play him!!!

 

[HankHill]

Rogers and Stone had absolutely no interest in playing for Kiffin. I believe Hunter is in that boat as well, but don’t remember it as vividly as the first two.

This is correct.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Let's go!!!

 

[JAllen18]

Pruitt is the guy boys. He's going to get us back. Patience.

Agreed.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

 

[UTSuave’]

Because there are a lot of other different variables in play as well. I'd say almost every college QB has worse numbers in college than high school.

Lol....ok compare for yourself.but in this case the numbers are not better or worse.they are the same identical numbers.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Dobbs scored 5 TD’s and over 400 yards of offense against an SEC opponent in his first full game as a true Sophomore.

He proceeded to carry us to 7-6

JG is dragging us, not carrying. It’s a massive difference regardless of how you view Dobbs sophomore season.

I’m not pro JG, but I also don’t think we can do better with the back ups. That said, I would absolutely play them to see what we’ve got. You never know for sure till the lights come on

 

[volinbama256]

Pruitt is the guy boys. He's going to get us back. Patience.

Not with JG at QB Bass, and we all know it... so basically this season will be our worst probably in program history as long as he is the guy behind center, so if you are good with that and actually think recruiting isn't going to go off the cliff, you are drinking too much orange kool-aid I'm afraid...
I know you said you didn't think recruiting would take a hit, but no way these high tier kids we are in the mix with are going to pull the trigger on this...

 

[zhangliao04]

Can’t start em til you play them (see Nathan Peterman). So, the second one. What I personally believe that Pruitt/Chaney/Weinke are juggling is the confidence factor. You indicate too strongly that you’re prone to going in another direction and you may lose whatever good you’ve built up in your starter. And if neither of the other two options are up for it, you’ve completely tanked the season. Happened TWICE for Fulmer in non-coincidentally his only two losing seasons. Yo-yoing Ainge/Clausen the first and Crompton/Stephens the second. Both Ainge and Crompton proved worthy with proper handling...Fulmer may have shared that with his hire. If JG starts and doesn’t show much, I can see the staff really break down what the other two show...with perspective of it being their first college action. Chaney has never been timid with going another direction. Tyler Bray and Jake Fromm (even tho his opportunity came with an injury) are ready examples. Read...schmead! We’re not seeing good throws...period!

Quality. Appreciate the response. Looks like JG getting the start so here's to hoping he does well this Saturday that the others get playing time.

 

[butchna]

Don’t want to get (way) too ahead of myself, and I don’t even know WHO the accompanying assistant was, but anyone else feel that English may be getting groomed? Most likely just me.