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#5,854
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Haven't you heard we are BREAKING RECORDS....just the wrong kind of records.

Play the backups and prove the fans right or wrong. Nothing to lose but maybe something can be gained. Like watching a QB be developed. I don't care who the starting QB is is just would love to see a little excitement.
 
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tennvols77 said:
Sticking with Pruitt, do believe he is the guy, and.......... we have no choice.

My only issue with him/staff is:

Why is it we didn't get a better incoming freshman recruit QB either year, or at least one you could believe could play as freshman? But, then how much control in year one did they have, and second year as well in terms of real options?

Makes the A. Martinez decommitment look bad hurt.......any recruitnicks remember/know if he was leaving regardless or did coaches help him make that decision?
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Most top tier QB recruits commit very early in the process so they can help recruit s class around them. Pruitt came in focused on locking down the immediate class he had a month the work on and got Shrout in 2018 who was very raw but have a high ceiling. Most 2019 top tier recruits were committed or already close to committing. Brian Mauer was an elite 11 QB and started getting intrest from the Buckeyes before he committed so it's not like hes a slouch.

Harrison Bailey is the first QB that Pruitt got to evaluate and recruit. HB committ4r November 2018 and is a 2020 recruit just to show how early top tier QBs commit.
 
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Clemson let a good quarterback walk last year to win a championship. I know we do not have a Lawrence but if he had got hurt, they were done at QB. Some times you have to take a chance in order to win and turn your season around. I hope we get a change just to see if it changes our team. If JG leaves, then so be it. We are not looking at a good season anyway with him and he would prove to me that he doesn’t deserve to wear the Power T.
 
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BruinVol said:
That’s where I am.

JG was better last year than he is now. Maybe he can get back there and we can have some respectable wins
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By better, what do you mean? They got steamrolled by Mizzou and Vandy to end. Now, he starts off shi**ing in the bed against Ga St and BYU. If we don’t have anyone any better than that then we should fire Pruitt.
 
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BruinVol said:
Not going to lie I don’t think it was the pick that turned his body language around I think it was well before that. I think it was when Pruitt chewed his ass out.

I blame Pruitt a little for that to be honest. I think he needs to know his Qb is fragile. Both deserve some blame imo
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I wish you and JG would take a hike
 
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Give Maurer and Shrout 5 plays each this week . Only 5 plays 3 run two pass. Run them in practice until they are sick of them. Play one with his five plays the first half and the other the second half with his five. I ain't buying these two are not serviceable.

The oline played well against BYU. They should be able to protect the freshmen vs UTC.
 
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I keep hearing people say that Fulmer is going to take over and chase the Generals win total. Do yall really think Fulmer wants to put his all time winning % record on the line with this roster ? I think that is bs talk.
 
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millst987 said:
Y’all think UF, UGA, or any of our big time competition would have packed the house like we did after losing a first game like we did? Nope. Crazy, our fans are a resilient bunch
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What’s your attendance projection for Chatt game? I’m guessing less than 70k
 
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Devo182 said:
USC lost to 2-10 unc.
Mizzou lost to wyoming.
Vandy is 0-2. Miss st hasnt impressed. Uk is meh and lost their qb.

We should have Bituli back and hopefully BT. Plus our young talent is a lot better than these teams', meaning we could progress more than others.

I think if we bring the fire we did yesterday, we should have every shot at these teams. They aren't any better than BYU. Get 4 out of the 5 and shock people. It's possible!
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only way this is even remotely possible is if Pruitt is able to keep the team together and not have them give up and fall apart after getting ass whipped by FL, GA, and AL... The QB situation will need to be under control as well.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Dobbs was not ready when he played as a Freshman. He was not much better as a Sophomore. Junior year he began to become more of a weapon.
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Dobbs scored 5 TD’s and over 400 yards of offense against an SEC opponent in his first full game as a true Sophomore.

He proceeded to carry us to 7-6

JG is dragging us, not carrying. It’s a massive difference regardless of how you view Dobbs sophomore season.
 
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I’ve been thinking a bit about the game last Saturday and while we had 4 times a better performance across the board than the previous week we still didn’t get a passing grade by the “experts” at ESPN. My impression inside the stadium is that we "weak-ass" fans were pretty much at the top of our game and especially the student section in the south endzone. I think one could point to a number of different plays or play-calls and say that’s the reason we lost the game. I don’t think any of those reasons would necessarily be right and I don’t think any would necessarily be wrong. Obviously we improved from week 1 to week 2, apparently just not enough.

I don’t know what is going to happen with JG but one of the things I’ve been consistent on over the past two years and more is that I didn’t think he had much of the gamer in him. I’ve read some articles on developing quarterbacks and like many other positions on the field there are multiple ways to teach the position. Quarterbacks play with techniques just like everyone else and there are different techniques preferred by different coaches. JG started out with Debord, then he had Larry Scott and Mike Canales. Last year he had Tyson Helton. This year he has Chris Weinke and Jim Chaney. For all I know he could essentially still be in the “freshman class”, starting out all over with a new coaching staff and trying to do things the way this staff wants. I have no doubt he’s a very intelligent kid.

Some 20-odd years ago I was involved with AAU basketball. I took a lot of kids to various basketball camps around the country. I think I sent a half-dozen kids to Kevin O’Neil’s camp here at UT one year. I sent a lot of younger kids to Coach Meyer’s camp at Lipscomb because most people believed there was probably no better camp in the country for fundamentals. We went to camps in Iowa, Chicago, New Jersey, Pittsburgh, Kentucky, and elsewhere. The camp in Pittsburgh I think was a 5-star camp. Back then a lot of high school coaches didn’t want their players “showboating”.

The 5-star coaches would tell the players not to listen to their high school coaches about playing with style but they better practice it so much that they didn’t make a mistake because if they did make a mistake, turnover or whatever, they should be fully prepared for their high school coach to chew them out. Whether it was a wicked crossover or going behind your back or between your legs or whatever move you were going to make you needed to make damn sure you had mastered it before you did it on the court in a game, after all that’s what the fans were coming to see and what they’d be talking about the next day. Your coach will probably be fine with it too so long as you don’t screw it up.

I may have pointed out previously that over the past decade Florida is consistently one of the most penalized football teams in the SEC and we are consistently one of the teams with the fewest penalties over the course of a season. I don’t have to tell you which team has won the most games.

When kids are afraid to make a mistake they hesitate and that’s their downfall. I was thinking of this in regards to Warrior’s play last week. Against Georgia State he had a PI penalty on a critical 3rd down attempt. I don’t know how well our kids process the “coaching” they get in circumstances like that. A lot of folks have said at times over the past almost 3 years now that our team was essentially mentally fragile. In the team only meeting after the first loss this year Ryan Johnson said, and he said it twice in his interview last week, that they had told the younger guys not to worry about the coaching. He went on later to praise the coaching staff and their ability. I took his interview to suggest that some of the guys, including the younger guys, were having some issues adjusting to the coaches and it may have been inadvertently affecting their play in an adverse way.

Tyler Bray, still one of my all-time favorite Vols, was a talented kid and I would argue a gamer, but he wasn’t all that coachable in college. Josh Dobbs was a talented kid and a gamer and he was very coachable. About the only thing I would say right now about JG is that he still seems to play like a freshman. jmo.

I’m okay this week with our staff and with our players. We just need to continue to improve. jmo.
 
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