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My father watched warm-ups at the game this past weekend. Said Maurer was hitting players on the money when throwing to the WR's and JG was air mailing balls left and right. Also said during one of the bonehead plays where JG threw into quadruple-pentuple coverage that Calloway threw his hands up because he was wide open.

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ChattaTNVol said:
I’ve been thinking a bit about the game last Saturday and while we had 4 times a better performance across the board than the previous week we still didn’t get a passing grade by the “experts” at ESPN. My impression inside the stadium is that we "weak-ass" fans were pretty much at the top of our game and especially the student section in the south endzone. I think one could point to a number of different plays or play-calls and say that’s the reason we lost the game. I don’t think any of those reasons would necessarily be right and I don’t think any would necessarily be wrong. Obviously we improved from week 1 to week 2, apparently just not enough.

I don’t know what is going to happen with JG but one of the things I’ve been consistent on over the past two years and more is that I didn’t think he had much of the gamer in him. I’ve read some articles on developing quarterbacks and like many other positions on the field there are multiple ways to teach the position. Quarterbacks play with techniques just like everyone else and there are different techniques preferred by different coaches. JG started out with Debord, then he had Larry Scott and Mike Canales. Last year he had Tyson Helton. This year he has Chris Weinke and Jim Chaney. For all I know he could essentially still be in the “freshman class”, starting out all over with a new coaching staff and trying to do things the way this staff wants. I have no doubt he’s a very intelligent kid.

Some 20-odd years ago I was involved with AAU basketball. I took a lot of kids to various basketball camps around the country. I think I sent a half-dozen kids to Kevin O’Neil’s camp here at UT one year. I sent a lot of younger kids to Coach Meyer’s camp at Lipscomb because most people believed there was probably no better camp in the country for fundamentals. We went to camps in Iowa, Chicago, New Jersey, Pittsburgh, Kentucky, and elsewhere. The camp in Pittsburgh I think was a 5-star camp. Back then a lot of high school coaches didn’t want their players “showboating”.

The 5-star coaches would tell the players not to listen to their high school coaches about playing with style but they better practice it so much that they didn’t make a mistake because if they did make a mistake, turnover or whatever, they should be fully prepared for their high school coach to chew them out. Whether it was a wicked crossover or going behind your back or between your legs or whatever move you were going to make you needed to make damn sure you had mastered it before you did it on the court in a game, after all that’s what the fans were coming to see and what they’d be talking about the next day. Your coach will probably be fine with it too so long as you don’t screw it up.

I may have pointed out previously that over the past decade Florida is consistently one of the most penalized football teams in the SEC and we are consistently one of the teams with the fewest penalties over the course of a season. I don’t have to tell you which team has won the most games.

When kids are afraid to make a mistake they hesitate and that’s their downfall. I was thinking of this in regards to Warrior’s play last week. Against Georgia State he had a PI penalty on a critical 3rd down attempt. I don’t know how well our kids process the “coaching” they get in circumstances like that. A lot of folks have said at times over the past almost 3 years now that our team was essentially mentally fragile. In the team only meeting after the first loss this year Ryan Johnson said, and he said it twice in his interview last week, that they had told the younger guys not to worry about the coaching. He went on later to praise the coaching staff and their ability. I took his interview to suggest that some of the guys, including the younger guys, were having some issues adjusting to the coaches and it may have been inadvertently affecting their play in an adverse way.

Tyler Bray, still one of my all-time favorite Vols, was a talented kid and I would argue a gamer, but he wasn’t all that coachable in college. Josh Dobbs was a talented kid and a gamer and he was very coachable. About the only thing I would say right now about JG is that he still seems to play like a freshman. jmo.

I’m okay this week with our staff and with our players. We just need to continue to improve. jmo.
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The two bolded sentences are where the entire fan base is with him. On one side, you have people who see him as damaged goods handicapped by new coaching staffs every year. On the other side, you have people who think he’s destined to be a poor game day QB.

This reminds me of the Compton situation so much.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So let's see a show of hands.... If we win 2-3 games this year, who's still on the Pruitt bus? Just chocking it up to bad players? How you gonna feel when we go 0'fer in conference? Because that's a definite possibility.
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If we got shi**y QB play, it is what it is. I would feel better if we rolled with one of the back ups. JG ain't going to get it hoss.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
My father watched warm-ups at the game this past weekend. Said Maurer was hitting players on the money when throwing to the WR's and JG was air mailing balls left and right. Also said during one of the bonehead plays where JG threw into quadruple-pentuple coverage that Calloway threw his hands up because he was wide open.

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Oh, he was WIDE OPEN....someone posted it on someones twitter....but oh yeah...HE WAS WIDE OPEN but JG had his eyes on one target and that was JJ....
 
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HankHill said:
Lol y’all loved JG a few months
ago now everything is his fault? He’s the same QB he’s been since he took over QD
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No this "y'all" has never been been a fan of JG. Check my stats. Be glad when he goes to that early draft you said he was good enough to go to.
 
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tennvols77 said:
Sticking with Pruitt, do believe he is the guy, and.......... we have no choice.

My only issue with him/staff is:

Why is it we didn't get a better incoming freshman recruit QB either year, or at least one you could believe could play as freshman? But, then how much control in year one did they have, and second year as well in terms of real options?

Makes the A. Martinez decommitment look bad hurt.......any recruitnicks remember/know if he was leaving regardless or did coaches help him make that decision?
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Pruitt pushed really hard to keep him committed. Same thing as w/ Mays -- there was nothing that could have been said/done that wasn't done. Kid just chose to go some place else.
 
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awaitingawin said:
Oh, he was WIDE OPEN....someone posted it on someones twitter....but oh yeah...HE WAS WIDE OPEN but JG had his eyes on one target and that was JJ....
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Last week the complaint was he hates JJ so he refuses to throw to him lol. JG is just not that good, and our OL is even worse. JG isn't as bad as you guys say though. Seeing the wide open person who isn't your first read doesn't happen when your OL sucks. That's most college QB, not just JG. He's been running for his life his whole career, it's habit by this point to lock in on his first look because most times he only has time for one look. Woth our OL, it's not going to matter a lot who the QB is.
 
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BruinVol said:
Not going to lie I don’t think it was the pick that turned his body language around I think it was well before that. I think it was when Pruitt chewed his ass out.

I blame Pruitt a little for that to be honest. I think he needs to know his Qb is fragile. Both deserve some blame imo
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It's freaking football. If you a re that "fragile" you have no business playing. Kinda like some of our "fragile" fan base.....
 
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drvenner said:
I will eat my crow. I really believed if he was given more time in the pocket, he would play well. I was very wrong. I own it. Time to move on.
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Nothing wrong in expecting your starting QB to get better with one of the best OC's in the country coaching him up. Actually, it's expected.
 
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JohnD13 said:
It's freaking football. If you a re that "fragile" you have no business playing. Kinda like some of our "fragile" fan base.....
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I wish sports worked that way but that don’t. This isn’t the 50s anymore where coaches don’t allow the kids to get water and expect them to play with broken bones. Very different psychology with kids these days. Not that I like it but it’s true
 
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Kingston Vol said:
They should pick one of these guys and split series with JG in the first half. Then get the 3rd guy some snaps in the second half if we’re up big enough
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If I'm Chaney, which I'm not, I'm sitting JG for each practice this week. Not even let him throw one ball. If he asks why tell him "I don't trust you throwing the football" and make him watch the other 3 QB's throw. Coach up Shrout and Maurer. It's time to move on.
 
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